Butler
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Originally posted by Tom J
 fpmsl talk about unlucky mate, sorry 2 hear 
 I fail to see the funny side of the fact i crashed, however your sympathy makes up for it 
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Paul_J
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Originally posted by Butler
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Originally posted by Tom J
fpmsl talk about unlucky mate, sorry 2 hear
I fail to see the funny side of the fact i crashed, however your sympathy makes up for it
Yeh I didn't really see why he was laughing?
To be fair, we all know what happened... you probably went in a bit too hard / fast into the roundabout (easy to do - especially with a bird behind lol), lost the back end and rather than applying just the right amount of throttle (too much would wheel spin and understeer more) to direct the car out of the slide, you either A )
Lifted off / braked... applied too much opposite lock and suddenly the front wheels gripped causing the car to change direction very quick and head for the barrier - paniced and braked, sliding into the barrier.
Or B ) felt it go, and just braked hard and slid into the barrier thingy.
or c ) something like that.
To be honest, it's very easy to do and very easy to say you wouldn't do the same in the same situation. However, I've seen many people do it and I did it too when I was 17 in my corsa - charged into a roundabout, lost the back end and slammed the anchors on... slid across the roundabout almost facing wrong way and stopped. Thankfully was at 2am and didn't hit the barrier.
Only after going on track / kinda learning to drive a bit more, I learnt that unless you have some power (even a small amount) going through the front wheels your car basically drifts where it wants to go through corners.
Go into a bend and lift off and either the back will come out, or the front will understeer wide... Either really your kinda fucked. Go into a corner and just keep at least a little bit of throttle on and it'll pull you around the bend.
Just a reminder of how slippery it is out there at the moment, and people should try to take it easy at the moment.
Either way, sorry to hear about that mate - As you know - I like 106's  If you get the insurance money, save for a Gti 
Paul J
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Butler
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Much appreciated mate, thats good advice.
I for one know that the stupidest thing to do when oversteering would be to let go off the accelerator. I kept the power on and applied opposite lock then felt the car edging more sideways at which point i slammed the steering wheel too far over and sent the car too far in the right direction, pointing me into the barrier. Its a good thing i didnt slam the brakes on, the car would have slid sideways into the barrier and probably through it, and theres a steep drop on the other side.
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mav
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nightmare mate, glad your ok though...
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Rob_Lee
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PUG 106 - 1 Careful Owner!
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vibrio
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Originally posted by Butler
Was going round a large roundabout too fast and the back end slipped out, corrected it and slid for what seemed like a lifetime (felt fucking good though) as the car lined up i was heading straight towards the barrier, turned the steering wheel away and flew over a bit of kerb that sticks out, as i hit the road again i was turning away and the car understeered and slid straight into the barrier.
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Rob_Lee
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Shame mate... mint car
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Butler
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Originally posted by Butler
Was going round a large roundabout too fast and the back end slipped out, corrected it and slid for what seemed like a lifetime (felt fucking good though) as the car lined up i was heading straight towards the barrier, turned the steering wheel away and flew over a bit of kerb that sticks out, as i hit the road again i was turning away and the car understeered and slid straight into the barrier.
wanker
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Butler
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Originally posted by Rob_Lee
Shame mate... mint car
Cheers for the pics mate, theyll go in the scrapbook lol
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Butler
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Originally posted by Rob_Lee
That bit of wheel missing i took with me, will keep that as a nice reminder!
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vibrio
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Originally posted by Butler
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by Butler
Was going round a large roundabout too fast and the back end slipped out, corrected it and slid for what seemed like a lifetime (felt fucking good though) as the car lined up i was heading straight towards the barrier, turned the steering wheel away and flew over a bit of kerb that sticks out, as i hit the road again i was turning away and the car understeered and slid straight into the barrier.
I'm a wanker
no your just a silly boy that hopefully won't drive so stupid the next time
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CorsAsh
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It's a shame mate, awful feeling to crash your car.
Maybe go for some skid pan training, you'll be better prepared for any skids in future then. Well worth it.
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Butler
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What the fuck did i say, ok ive crashed my car and fucking what, il pay for that myself. No fucking respect, you wouldnt feel the same if someone burnt your piece of shit stargate dvd collection and prized camera. Prick. If you havent got anything worthwhile to say, dont fucking say it.
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Wrighty
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look on the bright side it could have been worse and it looks fixable
bad stuff though eh
[Edited on 08-01-2006 by Wrighty]
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Paul_J
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Originally posted by Butler
Much appreciated mate, thats good advice.
I kept the power on and applied opposite lock then felt the car edging more sideways at which point i slammed the steering wheel too far over and sent the car too far in the right direction, pointing me into the barrier.
PMSL I've done that one too  about a year and a half ago, first week of uni - I thought I'd take my new uni mate who said he was into cars, out in my 1.2 16v beast of a car.
Accelerated hard down a dual carriageway, threw the car into the roundabout wanting to go right - Back end came out, he shat himself, so did I... facing the inside of the roundabout, had full lock on and tried powering out - but A ) applied far too much opposite lock and b ) forgot to wind it back out and release the lock as the car suddenly gripped and flew us the opposite way, I then caught that properly and drove the car normally up the hill off the roundabout.
My mate said very little - I said 'Oops... not done that since I was about 17' - Before I knew it, all these new people I had met didn't dare come in a car with me, as my new mate had told everyone I'm insane behind the wheel
lol - definately learnt my lesson. After the speeding offence I drive a lot slower now, but accidents do and will still happen. You were just unlucky mate, too be honest - I personally don't think the damage looks fatal.
New wing (cheap on ebay). new tyre / wheel (also cheap on ebay), new arch, new bonnet / re-banged back into shape, t-cut the front bumper and get tracking checked.
Paul J
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vibrio
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Originally posted by Butler
What the fuck did i say, ok ive crashed my car and fucking what, il pay for that myself. No fucking respect, you wouldnt feel the same if someone burnt your piece of shit stargate dvd collection and prized camera. Prick. If you havent got anything worthwhile to say, dont fucking say it.
why are you getting abusive because you drove too quickly and crashed your car. don't take your frustration out on me.
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Butler
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by Butler
What the fuck did i say, ok ive crashed my car and fucking what, il pay for that myself. No fucking respect, you wouldnt feel the same if someone burnt your piece of shit stargate dvd collection and prized camera. Prick. If you havent got anything worthwhile to say, dont fucking say it.
why are you getting abusive because you drove too quickly and crashed your car. don't take your frustration out on me.
Because your being a twat, if you crashed your car you wouldnt want people saying the same to you. How can you not see my point? Do you not have any respect.
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Rob_Lee
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I think James was trying to copy me. haha he was jealous of my awesome snow drifting!
only joking mate.
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vibrio
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Originally posted by ButlerBecause your being a twat, if you crashed your car you wouldnt want people saying the same to you. How can you not see my point? Do you not have any respect.
I have no respect for you at all. PGTF
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Paul_J
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Set of 5 wheels with tyres... £56
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/106-GTI-ALLOY-WHEELS_W0QQitemZ4601795882QQcategoryZ10406QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Wing - £43
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PEUGEOT-106-GTI-OFFSIDE-WING-BRAND-NEW_W0QQitemZ4603055930QQcategoryZ10406QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Paul J
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Butler
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Much appreciated mate, thats good advice.
I kept the power on and applied opposite lock then felt the car edging more sideways at which point i slammed the steering wheel too far over and sent the car too far in the right direction, pointing me into the barrier.
PMSL I've done that one too about a year and a half ago, first week of uni - I thought I'd take my new uni mate who said he was into cars, out in my 1.2 16v beast of a car.
Accelerated hard down a dual carriageway, threw the car into the roundabout wanting to go right - Back end came out, he shat himself, so did I... facing the inside of the roundabout, had full lock on and tried powering out - but A ) applied far too much opposite lock and b ) forgot to wind it back out and release the lock as the car suddenly gripped and flew us the opposite way, I then caught that properly and drove the car normally up the hill off the roundabout.
My mate said very little - I said 'Oops... not done that since I was about 17' - Before I knew it, all these new people I had met didn't dare come in a car with me, as my new mate had told everyone I'm insane behind the wheel
lol - definately learnt my lesson. After the speeding offence I drive a lot slower now, but accidents do and will still happen. You were just unlucky mate, too be honest - I personally don't think the damage looks fatal.
New wing (cheap on ebay). new tyre / wheel (also cheap on ebay), new arch, new bonnet / re-banged back into shape, t-cut the front bumper and get tracking checked.
Paul J
Its just one of those things, most of us go through it. 99% of drivers I know crashed at one stage. Im hoping its easily fixed, my main worry is the fact I couldnt get the engine started afterwards. Il try not to worry myself too much though. Its reassuring knowing im not the only one!
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Butler
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by ButlerBecause your being a twat, if you crashed your car you wouldnt want people saying the same to you. How can you not see my point? Do you not have any respect.
I have no respect for you at all. PGTF
You obviously care enough to post in here, having you got better things to do like spend time with your kid ffs
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Paul_J
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clear side repeaters (better than standard) - £4 from pug dealer. Get arch at the same time.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peugeot-106-Mk2-Bonnet_W0QQitemZ4601980009QQcategoryZ10406QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
106 bonnet.
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Butler
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Originally posted by Paul_J
Set of 5 wheels with tyres... £56
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/106-GTI-ALLOY-WHEELS_W0QQitemZ4601795882QQcategoryZ10406QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Wing - £43
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PEUGEOT-106-GTI-OFFSIDE-WING-BRAND-NEW_W0QQitemZ4603055930QQcategoryZ10406QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Paul J
Thats wicked mate cheers, hoping thats all that it needs. Will probably save myself some dollar and wack the spare on.
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Rob_Lee
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Originally posted by vibrio
why are you getting abusive because you drove too quickly and crashed your car. don't take your frustration out on me.
Give him a fucking break!
PS heres a little memo for you
Rob
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