Ben
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quote: Originally posted by STEvieN.I.
quote: Originally posted by Ben
some people ask some stupid questions , would my mini-moto beat a double decker bus? with 30 passengers on it with 20 psi in the tyres .
would my grandmas mobility scooter win a 60 year old on foot , in damp conditions with a spot of ice on the path with a slight incline.
no need for that crap. me n m8 r arguing about it n just looking for personal experiences. u w*nker
well then race you piece of shit , theres loads of things that could differ the answer like how good the driver is .
so go get fucked
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corsa5dr
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This has been argued about so many times.
Basically, the impartial answer you are looking for that if both cars are driven properly there isnt really much in it 0-60. But after that the corsa will pull away.
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STEvieXE
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quote: Originally posted by Ben
quote: Originally posted by STEvieN.I.
quote: Originally posted by Ben
some people ask some stupid questions , would my mini-moto beat a double decker bus? with 30 passengers on it with 20 psi in the tyres .
would my grandmas mobility scooter win a 60 year old on foot , in damp conditions with a spot of ice on the path with a slight incline.
no need for that crap. me n m8 r arguing about it n just looking for personal experiences. u w*nker
well then race you piece of shit , theres loads of things that could differ the answer like how good the driver is .
so go get fucked
my engine not fitted yet numbnuts. just back from rebuild, and now am going to fuck ur mum
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Paul_J
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Jesus we have this post every week...
See below - Exhaust + filter on my 106 gti = 15.3 1/4 mile...
Most 2.0 16v's will do 1/4 in 15.5's (lower if they're good driver / decent engine / exhaust etc as well)
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mk4_astra
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both completly standard engines then the xe corsa will have it on the straight. the vts/gti isnt really geared for top speed racing.
start tuning the gti/vts and bye bye xe corsa very early on as they respond to mods very well. dont know how a 210bhp xe corsa would do against a 180bhp gti but ive seen a gti run 13.5 at pod before which is impreesive
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Nic Barnes
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please, refrain from this. you cant compare a car with a std engine vs one with a complete engine conversion.
saxo vts would win all day long
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Danny H
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quote: Originally posted by muppetsport
please, refrain from this. you cant compare a car with a std engine vs one with a complete engine conversion.
saxo vts would win all day long
So cant compare one with yours?
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Nic Barnes
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no, different league all together.
really, you shouldnt even be comparing a saxo vts to a 20xe, should be the c16 and x16xe's as thats the same size engine in a same size car.
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cash_2_my_corsa
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Originally posted by cash_2_my_corsa
ive beat vts saxos in my 1.4 sri nova modded 101bhp. ive beat them in my 2.1xe corsa gsi with 4 ppl in me car lol saxos driver wasnt happy
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oh go home
well my nova was stripped out so was lighter + had shit loads do 2 the engine.
raced my m8s + beat him.
did a 7.7 0-60 at trax
its all about how u drive it
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Paul_J
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quote: Originally posted by mk4_astra
both completly standard engines then the xe corsa will have it on the straight. the vts/gti isnt really geared for top speed racing.
start tuning the gti/vts and bye bye xe corsa very early on as they respond to mods very well. dont know how a 210bhp xe corsa would do against a 180bhp gti but ive seen a gti run 13.5 at pod before which is impreesive
The gearing isn't the reason the XE is better top end. It's the lack of power / torque to get it there quickly in 5th
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Twiggy
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all depends on the xe engine aswell! as when i tool mine to rollers there was about 15 bhp differance between mine and another one....
I have own'd both a XE corsa and curently have a Saxo Vts...
IMO corsa would be faster but saxo not that far behind.... 
based on std motors....
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langey
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quote: Originally posted by STEvieN.I.
Hey huys neone had ne races with vts's. just wondering who win???
havent read all the thread, but i had a vtr trying against me, and it was no where near me, and i can honestly say, evan an extra 8valves and it still wouldnt have had a chance
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Nic Barnes
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my old xe slayed vts saxos all day long.
but, a 2litre 16v tin box should be beating a 1.6 16v tin box
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J da Silva
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On a more jokier note, if you think you can molest a 2litre XE then try it against me, muppetsport and Tim, you'll be wanting santa to come back and bring you a 10k engine fools!!
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Steve
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quote: Originally posted by langey
quote: Originally posted by STEvieN.I.
Hey huys neone had ne races with vts's. just wondering who win???
havent read all the thread, but i had a vtr trying against me, and it was no where near me, and i can honestly say, evan an extra 8valves and it still wouldnt have had a chance
laughable you think the only difference between a vtr engine and a vts is 8 valves 
like already been said the vts and xe both as std form would be similar to about 80/90 after that the corsa may edge away slowly
round corners no contest
[Edited on 26-12-2005 by Corsa_Sam]
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Nic Barnes
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really, your argument is pointless and a waste of time, find something more constructive to compare such as blue neons and red neons for a 20ft distance in the dark.
you cannot compare, and i repeat, cannot, a car which has had a complete engine change that was never ever supposed to be uner the bonnet to a shell and chasis and engine that the designers had in mind when they developed the car.
its like comparing an apple and a person in an apple costume.
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2.0 16v MPI vs. 1.6 8v SPI... Hmmm.
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Steve
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ed your talking about a vtr there 1.6 8v
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cash_2_my_corsa
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ive done a 15.1 in my corsa 2.1xe with a melted piston + blocked injector + it nearly blown up lol
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PIE CJ
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quote: Originally posted by cash_2_my_corsa
ive beat vts saxos in my 1.4 sri nova modded 101bhp. ive beat them in my 2.1xe corsa gsi with 4 ppl in me car lol saxos driver wasnt happy
its what known as little ricks in 1400 furios/west coasts and vtr's badged up as vts's !
0-100mph i reckon if the corsa was to make any shifting mistake the vts wud pull in front,
after 100mph i should hope a 106gti/vts would start losing !
although put a decent zorst,filter,manifold on a gti/vts and its a diff story.
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cash_2_my_corsa
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pie cj i race my m8s vts + yes it was a vts lol
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Nic Barnes
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who cares
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langey
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quote: Originally posted by Corsa_Sam
quote: Originally posted by langey
quote: Originally posted by STEvieN.I.
Hey huys neone had ne races with vts's. just wondering who win???
havent read all the thread, but i had a vtr trying against me, and it was no where near me, and i can honestly say, evan an extra 8valves and it still wouldnt have had a chance
laughable you think the only difference between a vtr engine and a vts is 8 valves 
like already been said the vts and xe both as std form would be similar to about 80/90 after that the corsa may edge away slowly
round corners no contest
[Edited on 26-12-2005 by Corsa_Sam]
a vts wont keep up with a xe, maybe to 30-40, but not 80-90
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Filby1
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My bro got an xev powerd astra, just fitted an irmscher 4 branch manifold today. Creams saxo vts any day of the week. should see the look on there faces whena an 10 yr Old N reg astra rapes them.
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Nic Barnes
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illegally racing on the streets????
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