StuartVRS
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im nervous
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Mistamist
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do they have to get the wicket? im not 100% sure on the rules.
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jimmiemac99
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Bollocks!!!!!!!!!!
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StuartVRS
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great game of cricket, both teams played very well.
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Mistamist
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who won? what are the rules? why did england need that 1 wicket?
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Dan B
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Because, with Australia staying in and having wickets remaining, the game is a draw......the score doesn't matter, if they stay the distance.
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GREG 1
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Sooooooooooooooo close yet so far !!
Brilliant though, well done lads
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Nath
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Damn rain let us down 
If we had played saturday it would have been all over much sooner than that.
[Edited on 15-08-2005 by Nath]
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J da Silva
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I personally think the bowlers aided Australia, they had to take wickets, not reduce runs, so why was Harmison and Flintoff bowling outside the line and down legside? surely aiming for the stumps gives you more chance, you can get an lbw, clean bowled or caught, if you bowl outside the line you are most likely to just get caught? Wheres the sense in that?
[Edited on 15-08-2005 by VenomTurbo]
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Nath
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quote: Originally posted by VenomTurbo
I personally think the bowlers aided Australia, they had to take wickets, not reduce runs, so why was Harmison and Flintoff bowling outside the line and down legside? surely aiming for the stumps gives you more chance, you can get an lbw, clean bowled or caught, if you bowl outside the line you are most likely to just get caught? Wheres the sense in that?
[Edited on 15-08-2005 by VenomTurbo]
Exactly. If the ball wasnt heading towards the wicket there is no way McGrath or Lee were ever going to attempt a stroke, they simply didnt have to. The ball should been aimed at their feet or wicket.
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J da Silva
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I know England played ace throughout the 5 days but I think the bowling in the last 10 overs really insulted all the efforts of the previous 4 and a half days.
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J da Silva
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If you fire a yorker, he has to play at it obviously, I turned to my mate and said "Aussies don't need runs, anything off the stumps should just be left"
Also when Ponting was getting singles to keep the strike, I would have just toepoked it to the boundary to keep the tailender on strike.
[Edited on 15-08-2005 by VenomTurbo]
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Nath
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quote: Originally posted by VenomTurbo
If you fire a yorker, he has to play at it obviously, I turned to my mate and said "Aussies don't need runs, anything off the stumps should just be left"
Also when Ponting was getting singles to keep the strike, I would have just toepoked it to the boundary to keep the tailender on strike.
[Edited on 15-08-2005 by VenomTurbo]
See the boundary where all the england fans cheered It barely made it.
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Nath
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quote: Originally posted by VenomTurbo
I know England played ace throughout the 5 days but I think the bowling in the last 10 overs really insulted all the efforts of the previous 4 and a half days.
Rain let us down big time
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Tiesto
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The point of pitching the ball outside off stump is to make the batsmen play the ball if they want to or not. They were getting swing so that puts doubt into the mind of the batsmen of where it will go once its pitched so they have to play at the ball be it a block or shot giving more chance of an edge or lbw if it swings in. Id rather face yorkers than balls outside my off stump not knowing where its going to go once its pitched.
Btw im supporting Aussies.
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Nath
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quote: Originally posted by Tiesto
The point of pitching the ball outside off stump is to make the batsmen play the ball if they want to or not. They were getting swing so that puts doubt into the mind of the batsmen of where it will go once its pitched so they have to play at the ball be it a block or shot giving more chance of an edge or lbw if it swings in. Id rather face yorkers than balls outside my off stump not knowing where its going to go once its pitched.
Btw im supporting Aussies.
The new ball wasnt swinging and the only man to extract swing went off with cramp. Lee and McGrath would never have edged a shot if they didnt have to. If their wickets were not in danger of being hit they will blatently watch the ball sail past, I know I would have.
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Robbo
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Such a shame 
At that late boundary 
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Nath
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quote: Originally posted by Robbo
Such a shame 
At that late boundary 
Even Freddie raised a smile
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Robbo
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I must admit tho im not 100% keen on flintoff as a late bowler, i think he adds nothing new in geenral and as above, bowls incorrect balls for the situation :S no doubting his early bowling but as the pressure grows im not so sre.... altho he got ponting so its all good
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Tiesto
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Some of Flintoff's balls from his last 2 overs where swinging back at the batsmen from outside the line of the stumps and one nearly ending up in lbw.
Though i do agree that Harmison should have been bowling straighter as he does not get as much swing/movement as the others.
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Tiesto
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quote: Originally posted by Robbo
I must admit tho im not 100% keen on flintoff as a late bowler, i think he adds nothing new in geenral and as above, bowls incorrect balls for the situation :S no doubting his early bowling but as the pressure grows im not so sre.... altho he got ponting so its all good
Harmison got ponting.
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Nath
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quote: Originally posted by Tiesto
Some of Flintoff's balls from his last 2 overs where swinging back at the batsmen from outside the line of the stumps and one nearly ending up in lbw.
Though i do agree that Harmison should have been bowling straighter as he does not get as much swing/movement as the others.
Still I dont think the swing was necessary, shouldve gone straight, and it wasn't really swing to the same extent as Simon Jones' swing. We needed to win that as a draw is no good, 2-2 would mean Australia retain the Ashes.
[Edited on 15-08-2005 by Nath]
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Robbo
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Sorry, I meant Warne lol
Agree with Nath as well... unnecessary
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Nath
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Warne is tricky with a bat 
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Robbo
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Hes been very good lately... u see athertons comment about warnes bowling? very strange :S
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