John
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I'm not disputing the fact that its his own stupid fault.
But if they have any doubts about anyone, should they not just be raiding them all and stopping the bombs being made in the 1st place.
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Katie
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they did go round his flat but he wasn't their. And how do they know where bombs are being made?
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SetH
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Originally posted by John
I'm not disputing the fact that its his own stupid fault.
But if they have any doubts about anyone, should they not just be raiding them all and stopping the bombs being made in the 1st place.
Because they dont have a crystal ball 
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John
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Originally posted by fox_e_lady
they did go round his flat but he wasn't their. And how do they know where bombs are being made?
If they have any suspicions about anybody at all atm, would it not be better raiding the suspects?
Would be easier to explain that than explaining why they shot an innocent guy in the head 5 times, after they had decked him, he still hadn't blown the alleged bomb up.
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John
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Originally posted by SetH
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Originally posted by John
I'm not disputing the fact that its his own stupid fault.
But if they have any doubts about anyone, should they not just be raiding them all and stopping the bombs being made in the 1st place.
Because they dont have a crystal ball
Thats a bit of a stupid comment.
They had his flat under surveillance.
So why not just raid the flat to be sure.
No crystal ball involved.
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Adam_B
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probably not enough evidence for a warrant, hence the surveilance
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Gsi_Ire
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Originally posted by Ian
If 20 people were running after me, I would probably run as well though? Train was a bad choice, but they were plain clothed?
yeah they were plain clothed from all accounts i have heard.
its very unfortunate, but he should have stopped.
and like some just saidi feel just as bad for the person that just put a bullit in the head of a innocent person 
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SetH
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Only a stupid comment to compliment your stupid statement.
They have limited resources remember, they cant raid everywhere they feel like raiding. As someone already mentioned the police have a bloody hard job. All you weak ass civilian motherfuckers making judgements and dumb arse statements, you dont have a clue. 
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Katie
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Originally posted by John
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Originally posted by SetH
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Originally posted by John
I'm not disputing the fact that its his own stupid fault.
But if they have any doubts about anyone, should they not just be raiding them all and stopping the bombs being made in the 1st place.
Because they dont have a crystal ball
Thats a bit of a stupid comment.
They had his flat under surveillance.
So why not just raid the flat to be sure.
No crystal ball involved.
Are you not reading what i worte. His flat was under servailence, and when the police went round, he wasn't their. When they caught up with him, they chased him. Hence how he got shot.
[Edited on 23-07-2005 by fox_e_lady]
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Laney
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Originally posted by Ian
If 20 people were running after me, I would probably run as well though? Train was a bad choice, but they were plain clothed?
Surely they'd be shouting something like "Stop! Police!" and waving badges and stuff?
Maybe not though, I don't actually know 
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Ian
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Yeah buy a plain clothed person could shout anything, they still don't look like police. Was English this guys first language?
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Carr
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By the way they didn't shoot him 5 times in the head two guys pinned him down and he was shot 5 times from point blank range.
You can't expect the police to always check people first as they would be dead if he'd had blown himself up or something.
He must have posed a risk as they wouldn't shoot someone for no reason especially as they are more of an asset alive as they can be used for information etc. A dead man answers no questions
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Skinz
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Originally posted by Ian
If 20 people were running after me, I would probably run as well though? Train was a bad choice, but they were plain clothed?
Assuming he saw the gun he should have stopped! I would, knowing whatever was going down was heavy as there where 20 people. Even
if you didn't believe it was the police you would stop in the fear of being shot.
[Edited on 23-07-2005 by Skinz]
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Ian
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A gun is all the more reason to run!
Rather that than not shoot him and he blows up the train though. Could have been so different.
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Laney
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Originally posted by Ian
Yeah but a plain clothed person could shout anything, they still don't look like police. Was English this guys first language?
In light of recent events, the Underground probably wasn't the best place to run was it
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Skinz
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Originally posted by Ian
A gun is all the more reason to run!
Rather that than not shoot him and he blows up the train though. Could have been so different.
No way, if there where 20 guys chasing me and they didnt have a gun then I would run and try and get away from them. If they had a gun I would stop as they would shoot me anyway if I didn't stop. better to stop and take your chances imo.
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Robbo
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Originally posted by Ian
Bad news but these split second decisions need making. He was wrong to run and if that's because he had nicked something then unlucky, you got off worse than most of them.
[Edited on 23-07-2005 by Ian]
AGreed, unfortunate but he shouldnt have run
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Danny H
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Can you imagine walking down the street in a foreign country though and 20 plain clothed people start running after you, and if you can't understrand what they are shouting. Don't think I'd stop.
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