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quote: Originally posted by Ian
The technology exists to make long lenses, they're just very expensive and difficult to make because of the very small manufacturing tolerances required.
The problem is that the image generated from such a lens would be so dark no current image sensor would be sensitive enough to amplify what little light came in without introducing masses of noise.
You also need to hold it fairly still of course.
Apart form the fact proper telescopes dont use lenses.
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quote: Originally posted by Skinz
i sometimes think, what if we could travel faster than light, i mean if we could catch up with light that left the earth 2000 years ago, if we could focus on the light we would in affect be seeing the source of that light, be it a house or a city, 2000 years ago, and in effect be travelling back in time
your confusing time with light.
no im not, light is a snapshot of time
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Sometimes we have some very good intelligent threads on CS. I'm proud.
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richard_syko
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quote: Originally posted by Skinz
quote: Originally posted by RussSxi
quote: Originally posted by Skinz
i sometimes think, what if we could travel faster than light, i mean if we could catch up with light that left the earth 2000 years ago, if we could focus on the light we would in affect be seeing the source of that light, be it a house or a city, 2000 years ago, and in effect be travelling back in time
your confusing time with light.
no im not, light is a snapshot of time
You would.
Light travels at 300000000ms (3e8ms) so you would have to go at least that fast and look back.
But with E=MC^2 you would have an infinate mass so it wouldnt happen.
As F=ma you would need an infinate force which even redtops dont have.
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yeh, this one is a keeper
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richard_syko
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quote: Originally posted by CorsAsh
Sometimes we have some very good intelligent threads on CS. I'm proud.
Considering
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CorsAsh
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Even if they're in a corsa, with throttle bodies, a gsi kit AND speedlines?
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richard_syko
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http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/FTL.html
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quote: Originally posted by CorsAsh
Sometimes we have some very good intelligent threads on CS. I'm proud.
lol i only asked to see if anyone knew what the equasion meant, not how to travel in time or what ever
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But, what happens when you have lights on a plane?
There moving faster than light!
If you reall want to know, look on amazon for a book called relativity.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0486607690/qid=1119562121/sr=8-6/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i6_xgl/202-2929400-2421437
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quote: Originally posted by richard_syko
But, what happens when you have lights on a plane?
There moving faster than light!
If you reall want to know, look on amazon for a book called relativity.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0486607690/qid=1119562121/sr=8-6/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i6_xgl/202-2929400-2421437
a plane does not go faster than light.
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richard_syko
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quote: Originally posted by langey
quote: Originally posted by richard_syko
But, what happens when you have lights on a plane?
There moving faster than light!
If you reall want to know, look on amazon for a book called relativity.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0486607690/qid=1119562121/sr=8-6/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i6_xgl/202-2929400-2421437
a plane does not go faster than light.
And
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quote: Originally posted by richard_syko
Apart form the fact proper telescopes dont use lenses.
Yeah, I'm using the photography definition of something which hangs on the front of a camera and is called a lens, but which in this case contains mirrors.
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richard_syko
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Thats a proper telescope.

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langey
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quote: Originally posted by richard_syko
quote: Originally posted by langey
quote: Originally posted by richard_syko
But, what happens when you have lights on a plane?
There moving faster than light!
a plane does not go faster than light.
And
and nothing, a plane dont go faster than light, so whats your point?
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quote: Originally posted by richard_syko
quote: Originally posted by langey
quote: Originally posted by richard_syko
But, what happens when you have lights on a plane?
There moving faster than light!
If you reall want to know, look on amazon for a book called relativity.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0486607690/qid=1119562121/sr=8-6/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i6_xgl/202-2929400-2421437
a plane does not go faster than light.
And
no they are moving lights, not moving faster than light. nice try thogh
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richard_syko
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But the light being emitted is already moving.
So it would in theory be moving at the speed of the plane plus the speed of light.
But light has a mass so it too cannot go faster than the speed of light.
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langey
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anyone else's head in bits trying to read thro this thread? lol
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no it wouldnt, its like falling off a building and flashing a torch, you cant speed up light by throwing it think of it as not a constant light, but millions of little lights joined up, if you were to shunt a plane travelling 759mph, and you rammed it with another going 800, that would break the sound barier cos its a constant thing. so fucking hard to explain im confusing myself
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quote: Originally posted by RussSxi
no it wouldnt, its like falling off a building and flashing a torch, you cant speed up light by throwing it think of it as not a constant light, but millions of little lights joined up, if you were to shunt a plane travelling 759mph, and you rammed it with another going 800, that would break the sound barier cos its a constant thing. so fucking hard to explain im confusing myself
you mean like light is a beam, or abit like running water, as in its moving, so it cant go faster because once its left the source of the light, it travels at the spped of light and nothing can catch it, so it cant be sped up?
it made sence in my head, but dont seem to have made sence in words
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quote: Originally posted by langey
quote: Originally posted by RussSxi
no it wouldnt, its like falling off a building and flashing a torch, you cant speed up light by throwing it think of it as not a constant light, but millions of little lights joined up, if you were to shunt a plane travelling 759mph, and you rammed it with another going 800, that would break the sound barier cos its a constant thing. so fucking hard to explain im confusing myself
you mean like light is a beam, or abit like running water, as in its moving, so it cant go faster because once its left the source of the light, it travels at the spped of light and nothing can catch it, so it cant be sped up?
it made sence in my head, but dont seem to have made sence in words
No 
Nobody knows what light is. Is it a wave (like sound) or is it a particle (the photo).
There is evidence of both.
But You would not be throwing the light.
The light source is already moving!
Light cant cant go faster than the speed of light!
In fact light cant travel at the speed of light, it travels up to it.
Using E=mc^2 and making a graph, light speed is the theoretical speed. 
[Edited on 23-06-2005 by richard_syko]
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fuck this i was only seein if anyone knew what "e=mc2" meant lol.
i'm off lol.
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quote: Originally posted by richard_syko
quote: Originally posted by langey
quote: Originally posted by RussSxi
no it wouldnt, its like falling off a building and flashing a torch, you cant speed up light by throwing it think of it as not a constant light, but millions of little lights joined up, if you were to shunt a plane travelling 759mph, and you rammed it with another going 800, that would break the sound barier cos its a constant thing. so fucking hard to explain im confusing myself
you mean like light is a beam, or abit like running water, as in its moving, so it cant go faster because once its left the source of the light, it travels at the spped of light and nothing can catch it, so it cant be sped up?
it made sence in my head, but dont seem to have made sence in words
No 
Nobody knows what light is. Is it a wave (like sound) or is it a particle (the photo).
There is evidence of both.
But You would not be throwing the light.
The light source is already moving!
Light cant cant go faster than the speed of light!
In fact light cant travel at the speed of light, it travels up to it.
Using E=mc^2 and making a graph, light speed is the theoretical speed. 
[Edited on 23-06-2005 by richard_syko]
correct
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Yeah i know what it means, we had to use in as part of my physics degree. As people have already explained, its a formula that relate mass and energy as basically the same thing. Gets quite interesting at the quantum level.
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quote: Originally posted by CorsAsh
quote: Originally posted by Skinz
i sometimes think, what if we could travel faster than light, i mean if we could catch up with light that left the earth 2000 years ago, if we could focus on the light we would in affect be seeing the source of that light, be it a house or a city, 2000 years ago, and in effect be travelling back in time
It happens already when you look out into space, you're in fact seeing things as they were thousands or more years ago. It's one reason why searching for ET life through radio etc is flawed. If you look at it this way - if a race of beings was following the same evolutionary path as us, they would have to have originated a long time ago, in order to develop technology that we could pick up now with our current detectors. In other words, they'd have to be where we are now, but thousands of years ago, in order for the radio waves etc to reach our antennae.
So, we are in fact looking into the past just by gazing into space. Theory goes that if you could make a lens powerful enough, you could capture light from ages ago and therefore view the past. Trouble is making such a lens.
 
and if anyone ask, light travel at 299 792 458 m/s
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