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Twiggy
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Whaaaa?
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lee
cotton gauze/mesh etc. = low filtration, which leads to lots of crap still getting through.

foam = high filtration, taking lots of shit away from air before going into engine.

capiche?


So i need to put a bit of foam in the filter??


Ideally yes. K&N use pre-filters on some of their products to stop dirt getting onto the filter... makes you wonder what good their filters are like without the pre-filter
Because (Pipercross) foam has a number of layers, it's a pre-filter and filter all in one.

More layers = greater capacity for dirt retention = longer service intervals = a filter that will supply the engine with air for longer.
All that's left to do is get the fine balance between the number of layers of foam, the ppi or density of each layer and the thickness of each layer.
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^^^^^^^^^^^ i dont wanna read a book joff!!!

End of the day i am getting a good 30bhp from the filter!

[Edited on 29-05-2005 by REDSPORT]
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lee
cotton gauze/mesh etc. = low filtration, which leads to lots of crap still getting through.

foam = high filtration, taking lots of shit away from air before going into engine.

capiche?


Not really, cotton-gauze (oiled) is a very good filter as it stops even tiny micron particles getting through and still flows air.
The problem is that it's just a single layer (hence the pleats - these help to increase the surface area) and it will clog faster than other filters, typically three times faster than a foam air filter.

This is why you get a lot of people saying that replacing a paper filter more often is more economical than fitting a cotton-gauze filter (panel, cone, whatever). In fact, paper will offer better performance at a given level of dirt load than a cotton-gauze filter.

All filters either need to be cleaned or replaced. If they're cheap like paper, just replace them. If they're an investment like a performance filter should be, then clean it.
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quote:
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^^^^^^^^^^^ i dont wanna read a book joff!!!

End of the day i am getting a good 30bhp from the filter!



It's 99 words and 30bhp? what a moron.
Twiggy
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How cum know ones taken the piss!!!
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30 bhp

if i buy 2 of these filters, do i get 60?
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How cum know ones taken the piss!!!


Because you're taking the piss out of yourself well enough already.
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quote:
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30 bhp

if i buy 2 of these filters, do i get 60?


Yes, but you won't be able to read the fitting instructions, there might be words on the paper.
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quote:
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30 bhp

if i buy 2 of these filters, do i get 60?


Noooooooooo! Thought i wud get pullled and piss taken stright away!

Is anybody else drinking???
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No, just you from the sound of it.
At the meths again?
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No, just you from the sound of it.
At the meths again?


No not yet got 48 stellas to get through!!!
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Get through them soon.
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On number 10 an got in from tonites activites at 11.30ish.......
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Great.
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REDSPORT your soooooo Great.


No probs....
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lee
cotton gauze/mesh etc. = low filtration, which leads to lots of crap still getting through.

foam = high filtration, taking lots of shit away from air before going into engine.

capiche?


they still filter the same if not more than a standard paper filter
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quote:
Originally posted by REDSPORT
quote:
Originally posted by Joff
No, just you from the sound of it.
At the meths again?


No not yet got 48 stellas to get through!!!


CHAV
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by REDSPORT
quote:
Originally posted by Joff
No, just you from the sound of it.
At the meths again?


No not yet got 48 stellas to get through!!!


CHAV


So 99% of the young male population a Chavs??
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quote:
Originally posted by REDSPORT
quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
quote:
Originally posted by REDSPORT
quote:
Originally posted by Joff
No, just you from the sound of it.
At the meths again?


No not yet got 48 stellas to get through!!!


CHAV


So 99% of the young male population a Chavs??


in a word.......yes
Twiggy
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OK
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quote:
Originally posted by broster
quote:
Originally posted by REDSPORT
quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
quote:
Originally posted by REDSPORT
quote:
Originally posted by Joff
No, just you from the sound of it.
At the meths again?


No not yet got 48 stellas to get through!!!


CHAV


So 99% of the young male population a Chavs??


in a word.......yes

pshh, im no chavalon. Everyone's taking the piss outta REDSPORT though

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