Tim
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Depends where you work obviously...
I expected to be on £25k+ when I left uni. Way luck had it I'm on £35k+
That's a Masters in Electronic Engineering & Computer Science....
[Edited on 14-04-2005 by Tim]
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TNM
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Computing Science at Glasgow.
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John
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Computing Science at Glasgow.
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Depends where you work obviously...
I expected to be on £25k+ when I left uni. Way luck had it I'm on £35k+
That's a Masters in Electronic Engineering & Computer Science....
[Edited on 14-04-2005 by Tim]
Yeah demographics are a major part as well. but then you also have a decent degree.
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Computing Science at Glasgow.
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Lol you don't know how right you are lol. I know out of 25 people in my IT class at colllage 17 did it, none of them have decent jobs in it pc world etc.
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Computing Science at Glasgow.
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Computer science degree is worth poo all now. every fucker has one. I work with a building full of people that have them
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Computing Science at Glasgow.
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Lol you don't know how right you are lol. I know out of 25 people in my IT class at colllage 17 did it, none of them have decent jobs in it pc world etc.
I know im right! I work for a software development company.
My bother is 7 years older than me. his best mate did computer science and every one on their course they stayed friend with does nothing to do with IT because they couldnt get a job.
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im doin business management but ive had hands on experience cos my family have a few businesses. but all the stuff we learn is like if we were in an ideal world.
was lookin at goin in2 a graduate scheme. but u gotta get like a's and b's. but i got c's but wen u fink about it if i cant get in2 the top companies, then i gonna start my own business. and the way i see it is i will have ppl wiv phds or masters. these people are smart in wot they do but not smart in business.
u earn around £30k they make around 150k + outta you. thats y i want to do it myself.
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John
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Computing Science at Glasgow.
join the pile of the left
Computer science degree is worth poo all now. every fucker has one. I work with a building full of people that have them
In the pile on the left with all the other ppl who go to one of the best uni's in the uk.
I don't care where you work but I know fine well myself my degree is a good 1.
What qualifications have you got?
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If I got the degree i'm studying atm i'd expect to be on nearly 30k straight out of uni.
computing science will not get you that PMSL
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If I got the degree i'm studying atm i'd expect to be on nearly 30k straight out of uni.
computing science will not get you that PMSL
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GTF vibrio. You have a shite comment to make on everything.
You know how good a reputation Glasgow's got so your just being a dick same as usual.
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Originally posted by x8john
Computing Science at Glasgow.
join the pile of the left
Computer science degree is worth poo all now. every fucker has one. I work with a building full of people that have them
In the pile on the left with all the other ppl who go to one of the best uni's in the uk.
I don't care where you work but I know fine well myself my degree is a good 1.
What qualifications have you got?
Well im a systems analyst with four and a half years experience, level 2 and 3 NVQ's in IT, C&G in web design, CLAIT levels hmm cant remember, key skills crap was going to do MCSE but dont have the time.
People with degrees in computer science come to me at work to ask how to do things you work that one out 
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I'm not disputing that fact.
I do know what i'm talking about though and what the job prospects are.
The degree isn't a normal diddy computing science one that somewhere (like stow college ) else hands out.
[Edited on 14-04-2005 by x8john]
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I know full well my degree is worth sod all, but TBH I enjoy doing it.
It shows I've been educated to a certain level and that's the best that I can get out of it.
My tutors are on £26k for literally fanny around all time.
Private instrument tuition can get you £30/h if you're good. I don't know how much that works out at per year 
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it all depends on luck after uni and if you are in the right place at the right time !
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If I got the degree i'm studying atm i'd expect to be on nearly 30k straight out of uni.
computing science will not get you that PMSL
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GTF vibrio. You have a shite comment to make on everything.
You know how good a reputation Glasgow's got so your just being a dick same as usual.
no computing science is better off done at strathclyde. computing science is done by a lot of people. I doubt you'll get near 30k when you leave. I don't doubt that it's possible that you may get to that stage at some point but there are very few professions that will give you that with just 4 years of learning. PMSL you are a fool.
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Originally posted by x8john
I'm not disputing that fact.
I do know what i'm talking about though and what the job prospects are.
The degree isn't a normal diddy computing science one that somewhere (like stow college ) else hands out.
[Edited on 14-04-2005 by x8john]
stow does NC's, HNC's and HND's. a degree is longer but don't think just because you have a degree your goign to make a lot of money. think how many people where in your class then think about the people that are in computing science degree's all round the country.
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A bloke where I work has just finished at uni and has a 2:1, he has just started a job and is on £13,600.
I am on more than this with only 4 GCSE's. 
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If I got the degree i'm studying atm i'd expect to be on nearly 30k straight out of uni.
computing science will not get you that PMSL
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GTF vibrio. You have a shite comment to make on everything.
You know how good a reputation Glasgow's got so your just being a dick same as usual.
no computing science is better off done at strathclyde. computing science is done by a lot of people. I doubt you'll get near 30k when you leave. I don't doubt that it's possible that you may get to that stage at some point but there are very few professions that will give you that with just 4 years of learning. PMSL you are a fool.
Computer science is three years and you can 30k is your a seinor developer 
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If I got the degree i'm studying atm i'd expect to be on nearly 30k straight out of uni.
computing science will not get you that PMSL
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GTF vibrio. You have a shite comment to make on everything.
You know how good a reputation Glasgow's got so your just being a dick same as usual.
no computing science is better off done at strathclyde. computing science is done by a lot of people. I doubt you'll get near 30k when you leave. I don't doubt that it's possible that you may get to that stage at some point but there are very few professions that will give you that with just 4 years of learning. PMSL you are a fool.
Computer science is three years and you can 30k is your a seinor developer
4 years in scotland for HONS unless you leave with an ordinary like AK did
senior is not straight from university
[Edited on 14-04-2005 by vibrio]
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it used to be the case of get a degree and you'll get a good job on good salary, but now that many people have degrees they are worth less and more and more people are having to continue education onto further degree to guarentee work
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A designated degree is 3 years. And from what i've heard employers would rather have a 3 year designated from glasgow than an honours from most places.
I know tehre is every possibility you could get a degree in anything and end up in McDonalds. £30k a year from the degree i'm doing is very possible. I'm doing it, i've done the research, so I don't really care what i'm being told on here.
Vibrio, there is something like a 50% drop out rate from 1st to 2nd year in computing, then more drop out before 3rd. Its in the top 3 most difficult in the uni afaik, so I have quite an advantage over the idiots sitting in technical colleges rebadged as uni's.
[Edited on 14-04-2005 by x8john]
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Originally posted by vibrio
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If I got the degree i'm studying atm i'd expect to be on nearly 30k straight out of uni.
computing science will not get you that PMSL
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GTF vibrio. You have a shite comment to make on everything.
You know how good a reputation Glasgow's got so your just being a dick same as usual.
no computing science is better off done at strathclyde. computing science is done by a lot of people. I doubt you'll get near 30k when you leave. I don't doubt that it's possible that you may get to that stage at some point but there are very few professions that will give you that with just 4 years of learning. PMSL you are a fool.
Computer science is three years and you can 30k is your a seinor developer
4 years in scotland for HONS unless you leave with an ordinary like AK did
senior is not straight from university
[Edited on 14-04-2005 by vibrio]
My bad on the eng - scot differnce. One of the lads here went from junior programmer to seinor developer in 4 years.
But it is very rare.
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Average starting salary for graduates is approx 22k IIRC. Starting salaries dont give a good indication of the economic benefits of doing a degree anyhow, its when you have a few years experience and start applying for more senior positions that employers like degrees and further study much as a MA, MSC, MBA etc.
Most larger companies offer graduate schemes that you cannot get into without a degree, which shows that qualifications are still valued by employers. Stastically graduates earn more than non graduates, thats a fact that is pointless debating.
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Tim
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Vibrio I disagree -- I know plenty of analysts on £30k plus with a simple computer science degree.
If you want good money in IT, come work for an investment bank...
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