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Ally
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7th Mar 05 at 11:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

possibly, hopefully there wont be a next time
Richie
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quote:
Originally posted by Ja@Vision
why did nt the duck just fly off? If it can t work out to fly away probaly deserved to get ate.


because im pretty sure this was the one that got attacked along with the other one last time and could no longer fly after it
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7th Mar 05 at 12:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ally
I live on a farm with Richies family, which his dad owns.

Twice now people have been walking along the canal (not through our land, just runs alongside one of our fields) with their dogs (not on leads) and their dogs have come onto our land and attack some of our livestock (well ... ducks) the last time the duck had to be put down, this time Richies mum has just taken it to the vets.

Am i right in thinking ... i could shoot the dog if its attacking our animals, as we live on private land, and the dog would be trespassing?



as far as I know you can't in england however the dog by law has to be on a lead. in scotland you can shoot em dead no problem lol
Mark Petty
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7th Mar 05 at 12:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Speak to the dogs owners, and tell them to put the dogs on a lead or they will be shot when they come on your land.
Or just wait in a bush for a while until the dogs come back and beat them with a large pole.

Or get rid of the ducks and don't worry about it
Ally
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7th Mar 05 at 12:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

We cant speak to the dog owners, we dont have enough time

There are alot of them.
Ally
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7th Mar 05 at 12:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Petty
Speak to the dogs owners, and tell them to put the dogs on a lead or they will be shot when they come on your land.
Or just wait in a bush for a while until the dogs come back and beat them with a large pole.

Or get rid of the ducks and don't worry about it


The shouldnt be on our land anyway ... its private land and the only entrance is the gate at the top, and is very clear that its not a public footway
Mark Petty
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quote:
Originally posted by Ally
We cant speak to the dog owners, we dont have enough time

There are alot of them.


Oh I thought it was the same dogs. Can't you just fence it off or something?
Richie
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no because there are so many pikey fuckers in the area that they keep using tin snips/wire cutters to cut through the fences. And council wont let us put an electric fence on our land because of the canal
Carly
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7th Mar 05 at 12:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Its not the dogs fault its just instint, and its obviously not the ducks fault so its a shame u cant have a pop at the owner, just with a bb gun mind, not a riffle
Ally
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Yeh its the owners fault for not keeping their dogs on a lead, most people round here know us and know we have livestock and are wary of it.

I understand its instinct, but tbh i dont care when they are ripping apart our animals.

If there is a next time then we will probably shoot the dog and have a go at the owner.

The cost of putting the duck down isnt cheap, so maybe the owner of the dog should coff up the cost of his dogs actions and take some responcibility
Carly
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7th Mar 05 at 12:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote


The cost of putting the duck down isnt cheap, so maybe the owner of the dog should coff up the cost of his dogs actions and take some responcibility


absolutely, of course they should pay, i certainly would if it happened with our dog, fortunately im not stoopid enough to let the dog run round livestock without a lead, but some people obviously are
Ally
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7th Mar 05 at 12:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Some people are just cocks.
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quote:
Originally posted by Joff
Next time please provide the dogs with some hoisin sauce, pancakes and some grated cucumber.


pmsl
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I am pretty sure that ducks are not classed as live stock. Just buy one sheep and put it there. Its wales anyway, your allow to shot it then for sheep worriyng.

You cqan buy a sheep for less then £50
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7th Mar 05 at 14:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You have to watch there isnt public access on the canal you might own the land but they could still be allowed to use it.
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7th Mar 05 at 14:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

but up here if its private land you can shoot em


but would you really want to shoot someones dog?

[Edited on 07-03-2005 by K17STY]
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have to put up a sign saying "dogs on leases" and make them aware
City
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7th Mar 05 at 14:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ally
quote:
Originally posted by Colin
quote:
Originally posted by Ally
Im fucked off because the guys whos dog attacked our animals today, just took his dog and walked off, without disciplining (sp) the dog.

The last time it happened (christmas eve) the guy gave his dog a good kicking.

We've put signs up, and the next time it happens i will have no problem in shooting the dog.


Maybe you should have the ducks penned in so dogs cant get to them

Do you even know how to use a shot gun You'll probably end up taking out the duck...or the dog owner


We dont have a shot gun, just air guns and a rifel, and yes i can use them, and have used them in the past.

I used the L98A1 rifel which is similar to the ones used out in Iraq -



But minus the sight


that nothing like they use in iraq
Ally
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quote:
Originally posted by City
quote:
Originally posted by Ally
quote:
Originally posted by Colin
quote:
Originally posted by Ally
Im fucked off because the guys whos dog attacked our animals today, just took his dog and walked off, without disciplining (sp) the dog.

The last time it happened (christmas eve) the guy gave his dog a good kicking.

We've put signs up, and the next time it happens i will have no problem in shooting the dog.


Maybe you should have the ducks penned in so dogs cant get to them

Do you even know how to use a shot gun You'll probably end up taking out the duck...or the dog owner


We dont have a shot gun, just air guns and a rifel, and yes i can use them, and have used them in the past.

I used the L98A1 rifel which is similar to the ones used out in Iraq -



But minus the sight


that nothing like they use in iraq


Thought they used SA80's over there?
Ally
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7th Mar 05 at 14:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by K17STY

but would you really want to shoot someones dog?




Not really, but if it was ripping one of my ducks to shreds then yeh
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quote:
Originally posted by Ally
quote:
Originally posted by City
quote:
Originally posted by Ally
quote:
Originally posted by Colin
quote:
Originally posted by Ally
Im fucked off because the guys whos dog attacked our animals today, just took his dog and walked off, without disciplining (sp) the dog.

The last time it happened (christmas eve) the guy gave his dog a good kicking.

We've put signs up, and the next time it happens i will have no problem in shooting the dog.


Maybe you should have the ducks penned in so dogs cant get to them

Do you even know how to use a shot gun You'll probably end up taking out the duck...or the dog owner


We dont have a shot gun, just air guns and a rifel, and yes i can use them, and have used them in the past.

I used the L98A1 rifel which is similar to the ones used out in Iraq -



But minus the sight


that nothing like they use in iraq


Thought they used SA80's over there?



L4 L85A1
Ally
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7th Mar 05 at 14:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

L85 and L86's?
Pop
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7th Mar 05 at 14:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if it was ally's duck that was trying to eat the dog then I'm sure the dogs owner would have no issues about shooting the duck...
Mark Petty
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7th Mar 05 at 15:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Why have ducks anyway? The only duck you should have is on your plate at a chinese , i'm hungry now
Ally
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7th Mar 05 at 15:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Petty
Why have ducks anyway? The only duck you should have is on your plate at a chinese , i'm hungry now


Because we do, and we also have geese

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