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Paul_J
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Originally posted by corsa808


and how is a 2.0 corsa "not amazingly rapid" 0-60 in 6.5 secs is rapid.

[Edited on 17-01-2005 by corsa808]


2.0 corsa does not do 0-60 in 6.5 secs!

Try 7.5-7.8 secs in standard form... few mods and low 7's...
Filby1
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Paul_j or 0-60 times seam about spot on for a standard car
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in a few years most standard hot hatches and 1.6's will probably beat 2.0 corsa's
Siberia
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if been in an 2.0 corsa before... yeh it was faster than my 1.6..... but i wouldnt say if was ass rappingly faster.... well to 70 anyways...

[Edited on 17-01-2005 by Siberia]
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ptfff.... 106GTi's were easy meat in my std c20xe corsaB
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oh yes, back to the original topic if i could start all over again i would go for a 1.4 sport and just stick a 2.0 in it. i only tuned my 1.6 cos i had a spare engine (just in case) although my corsa handles so much better than most 2.0 corsas. ive driven a 1.4 and it wasnt bad, but its really worth going for a 1.6 if ur thinking of tuning it.
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa808
what needs doing to a 106 gti to get it to 150bhp matey?


i had grp a exhaust with decat,
4-2-1 manifold
enclosed cold air filter
dastek engine management system
Filby1
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look at this link for cool c20xe engines
http://www.qednet.demon.co.uk/index.htm
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quote:
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ptfff.... 106GTi's were easy meat in my std c20xe corsaB


14.44sec 1/4mile at 97mph in std c20xe CorsaB

Unsuprisingly
Steve
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i didnt go as far as removing the wheel archs in mine
Paul_J
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Originally posted by corsa808
oh yes, back to the original topic if i could start all over again i would go for a 1.4 sport and just stick a 2.0 in it. i only tuned my 1.6 cos i had a spare engine (just in case) although my corsa handles so much better than most 2.0 corsas. ive driven a 1.4 and it wasnt bad, but its really worth going for a 1.6 if ur thinking of tuning it.


You ever taken it down the 1/4 mile? Would of thought the corsa 1.6 would really lack torque?
AK
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its still a standard engine though
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a corsa 2.0 with the basic mods (exhaust & filter) will do 0-60 in around 6.5 seconds. an astra gsi will do it in about 7.4 in standard form.

anyway, 0-60 is a bad way to measure a cars performance. 1.6 16v corsa (150bhp) vs a 2.0 corsa in a 0-100 sprint. 2.0 will win all day long.
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Originally posted by Adam Kindness
its still a standard engine though


Since when do they come standard with power cap, cone filter and aftermarket exhaust? (and anything else that yours had lol)

[Edited on 17-01-2005 by Paul_J]
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i know someone who has a gti with 144bhp but gets raped by 2.0 corsas, it's about the torque!!!!!!
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all depends off the mark gti will beat it, on the motorway XE will win
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Originally posted by Niall
i know someone who has a gti with 144bhp but gets raped by 2.0 corsas, it's about the torque!!!!!!


yeh I think a gti would get beaten by corsa - but the gti would get away first imo, then the corsa would pass it... due to the weight... also get to some twisties and the 106 gti will leave the corsa.
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all depends off the mark gti will beat it, on the motorway XE will win


without doubt! my 1.6 is crap over 75..... well ya can drop into fourth but this maybe shorten its life if reapeated to much...
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dont forget all this is down to Driver skill and weather? see alot of old peeps driving 182 renults and whats not its just wasted
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Originally posted by Greasemonkey
145bhp for £1000 yet you will have no tourqe for an extra £500 ya could have 155bhp with loads of tourqe the 2litre suprise factor, 2 litre is the best basis to start tuning, anything below is a waste of time i think


How much money did you spend/waste on hottign up a C16XE that was determined to break?

It's hardley a competition, 100BHp vs 150, although I still hold that a small block corsa handles better than a 20XE corsa. although I'm still nto a corsa handlign fan though.
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what is the actual difference in weight with the 1600 and the 2ltr engines with the gear box? on there own
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not that much i'd imagine - to be honest I think it's just an excuse people with 1.6 corsa's use to justify wasting their money.
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quote:
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and 106 Gti there only 115 to 120bhp are they not? and thats only if there not tired with all that hard driving?


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and whats that thing the 1.4 ecotecs hace just by the battery? think it has a little filter in the end?


Its an air pump that blows air into the exhaust manifold to heat up the cat faster when the engines cold. You don't even need the pump, its just for emissions.


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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness
its still a standard engine though


Since when do they come standard with power cap, cone filter and aftermarket exhaust? (and anything else that yours had lol)

[Edited on 17-01-2005 by Paul_J]


i would have used an SFi box if i could have

I hardy think a powercap and induction will make diddly squat of a difference..... they lowered my peak torque to just 130lb/ft but spread it further up the rev range...

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