GY52
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Yeah I go 3-4 times a week. Never used to but now I feel really well. I need to quit smoking though then i think i would feel a bit fitter. Its a gud place for some eye candy too.
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Drysdale
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Try and go 6 times a week.
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Ben
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do people go on there own , or with a mate
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dinosaur
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www.t-mag.com
is good
weights and stuff is such a complex subject though, best read everything you can find if you want to get on.
Right now, I am a decent 244 lbs at under 10% fat, and today Squatted 442 lbs for reps, one set of 6 and one set of three.
I give respect to any dude who can Squat 308 lbs and over for proper reps in decent form, paralell or below and decent form. Most guys either don't squat or Squat in some weird partial fashion like they are trying to squeeze out a shit.
What most people don't realise, is the Squat is a full body exercise and will make you full body grow. Amongst other things a good set of squats will help you release somatotropin (growth hormone) to help you get big.
Just remember the carbs and protein after a workout and not just protein, you need carbs as well, perhaps more so. Insulin activity (insulin is the most anabolic of hormones BTW) will help shuttle nutrients into the cells after a workout.
Three things cause muscle growth....
Glycogen accomodation...i.e getting more carbohydrates into the muscle cell.
Capillary growth..the enlargement of the blood cappliaries
Myofibril thickening .... actual muscle proteins actin and myosin enlarging the actual muscle fibres.
Other factors are things like creatine phosphate (monohydrate) which helps hydrate a muscle cell by storing water in it.
[Edited on 24-06-2004 by dinosaur]
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Drysdale
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i find I get more done if I go on my own. Started a course of 5mg thai pinks (steroids) for oral consumption, 6 week course, 5 a day (25mg)...good results so far.
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CORSA NUT
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quote:
Originally posted by 1600power
corsa nut - 
did going to the gym really cause u to get that?
I need to go2 the gym tbh the beer gut has well and truly settled in 
Well yes and no mate.
One of my legs is longer than the other and bad technique over 2 years in the gym.Feels REALLY wierd mate,like i'm always leaming to one side and when i train i have to be very carefull how i lift.I have to lift 'Offcentre'
Can be fixed and is getting much better now 
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CORSA NUT
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And 6 times a day is fuking useless your body needs a rest otherwise you will be doing more harm than good.
Try going Monday Wednesday and Friday for about an hour a time and maybe a run around your area for 30 minutes after.
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Marc
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I used to do mon wed fri too. but if i missed friday i had to do sat
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stubbsy
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used to go nearly every day, gym one day, swimming next day, boxing training one day of the week. when i first started i just did weights got upto 14 stone but felt realy unhealthy so started to do more cardio, im around 13 stone now.
havent been able to go lately though as been working too much 
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mike16v
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i wanna start going again, been meaning to for a while, prices have really gone up round here in last couple of years thou
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dinosaur
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i find I get more done if I go on my own. Started a course of 5mg thai pinks (steroids) for oral consumption, 6 week course, 5 a day (25mg)...good results so far.
You mean whats supposed to be Dianobol (aka the breakfast of champions or dbol) but is prob a considerably larger dose of methyltest.
6 weeks of 5 of them will give you a gain of about a stone, 13lbs water and 1 lb muscle. If you are prone to them you may (and its likely) that you could get acne, a nice bit of extra body hair (virilisation) and if you are very unlucky you may even get gyno (gynomastia) which is known in gym circles amongst gear boys as BITCH TITS.
You may not get any of these though, its pot luck and depends on the individual. 6 weeks of that is a crap cycle anyway, as any gains you get just wither away due to a very sharp drop of you bodies own testosterone, it shuts down when you get it from external sources and then has trouble pciking back up after about a week. You'd also need an anti estrogen like nolvadex and possible some clomid to set yourself right and prevent estrogen realted effects as well. Then again you may not. Methyltest (or genuine dbol) is also Liver toxic and if you hepatic (liver) system is not up to speed you'll get liver damage.
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dinosaur
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Oh yeah also I see you ain't 20 till october, that means that technically your bones aren't fused , i.e you could still grow taller and in general men grow till they are 21. If you are on the gear it hardens the ends of the bones so if you are say 5'10 and you could have been 6' forget it.
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Super_si
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I dont agree The squat can be faked the deadlifts the real test of strength. you cannot fake a deadlift
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dinosaur
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You can see when someone is doing a proper squat, I don't see how you can 'fake it'. I do however see people doing versions of the squat by squatting down to a quarter or half the proper distance and leaning fowards, usually with knee wraps on and several lifting belts. Then strutting round the gym because they managed that with 4 plates each side. Partial squats like that in bad form thrusting their ass backwards just loads up the back leads to injury.
Deadlifts are about as popular as Cliff Richard in gyms these days, probably because they are even more gruelling that squats. I do not rate them over Squats, but they do build good forearms and traps. The Squat done properly elicits more muscle reponse and then leads to further growth, countless studies support this. Deadlifts should be part of everyones routing anyway. Then again most of the people I see in the gym dont train their lower body anyway.
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Super_si
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traps from deadlifs? powercleans i could understand. Traps down even come into the deadlift to be fair, unless your using a really abstract technique like pussy Sumo lift
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J da Silva
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Originally posted by Super_si
Unless youve a rack at home to train in at home, its pointless
i have various bits of decent equipment, and i'm getting what i want out of my training 
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dinosaur
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Ok tough guy.
The deadlift is initiated by simultaneously extending the knee and hip joints. The knee will extend due to the contraction of the quadriceps muscles (vastus lateralis, vastus medialis, vastus intermedius, and rectus femoris), and, during the extension, may move slightly to the rear. The hip joint will extend secondary to the contraction of the gluteus and the hamstrings (biceps femoris, semitendinosus, and semimembranosus). While the entire hamstring is active to a certain degree during the deadlift, the semitendinosus and semimembranosus are recruited to a much greater degree to extend the hip joint.
The bar should be pulled into the body, as well as up. This keeps the athlete from falling forward during the lift, as it helps maintain a far more stable combined center of gravity (CCOG). This is where the placement of the feet is a significant factor. If they are too far forward, causing the shins to be closer to the bar than necessary, the bar must be pulled around the knees, instead of past them. This shortens the lever arm distance and reduces the resistive torque.
During this period, and indeed, throughout the entire lift, the musculature of the upper back and shoulders (trapezius, latissimus dorsai, teres minor, subscapularis, infraspinatus, supraspinatus, as well as the anterior, medial and posterior deltoids) will be undergoing an isometric contraction to hold the bar in a stable position. In the arm, the biceps brachii, brachialis, and brachioradialis will also contract isometrically to stabilize the elbow joint. The forearm flexors are extremely active during the gripping of the bar.
But you know better no doubt.
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Drysdale
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6 days a week used to nacker me...but iv grown used to it...sunday is me rest day.
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dinosaur
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6 days a week
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Drysdale
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Come on mate, im not doing 3 hours a day...continuous training on a treadmill for an hour then benching 300 lbs+...
I variate...mon, weds, fri + sat is resistance...an hour a day. Tues/Thurs half hour of CV.
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dinosaur
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I wondered how you found the time. Single guy ?
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Redcorsa69
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i did loads, but my problem is i do it for ages, get big, stop going, muscle loosens up so i start goin again. Its a spiral of shit but i get sucked in every year!!!
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dinosaur
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People talk about 'muscle memory' where you can get back what you had quickly. Basically its like recomposition and also the muscle memory bit comes from the fact something called fascial stretching occurs in muscle cells and they always stay stretched, all that happens is if you don't train the nutrients and glycogen and some other factors aren't there. But start training again and you get it back real quick. Kinda like a spring, once stretched its impossible to return to normal size.
Wait for the muscle turns to fat comment.....
That's impossible but if you continue to power back food and don't train you'll prob get fat.
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J da Silva
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i think super_si has got it into his head i want to get to the same goal he wants to, you could have been the grown up and offered some advise rather than try n be-little others
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J da Silva
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you cant turn fat into muscle i know that much
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