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Cosmo
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Originally posted by Shelly
Cosmo hasn't ever heard of or witnessed alcohol related violence...


I have, but I have also been to a lot of similar type of games and not seen it happen - so it doesnt go hand in hand.
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To sum this up(as I cant be bothered with it anymore):

1.Not enough plan/space to contain the volume of fans that went to Manchester, not enough facilities, not enough security measures etc.
2. Too much drink, whether this was supplied there or allowed in.
3. Stupid Stupid idea not the show the match on the big TV....after k's of fans been drinking & waiting for about a day that was suicide & any teams support would have kicked off I dont care who says they would not!
4. Casual's turned up to cause trouble, not true fans...decent people but the creeps that can afford a day away from the dole office to get a cheap day return to manc to cause bother.



[Edited on 15-05-2008 by Colin]
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Not all idiots thank god!

Cosmo hasn't ever heard of or witnessed alcohol related violence...


He has. I met him in Liverpool, had a beer, and told him to fuck off.

[Edited on 15-05-2008 by Nath]
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4. Casual's turned up to cause trouble, not true fans...decent people but the creeps that can afford a day away from the dole office to get a cheap day return to manc to cause bother.



[Edited on 15-05-2008 by Colin]

Not a chance you can just blame what happend on Casuals, I was there and a good 95% of the folk throwing bottles were wearing replica wear.
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quote:
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I think we have established that a select few idiots have ruined it for the good supporters and club.


On today of all days i'll stand up for the good lot Shelby, the divide was crossed big time over the death of TB.

Big burly rangers fan wearing a strip stopped off at Parkhead to drop off a wreath on the road back from Manchester at lunch time, my old dear was there laying some flowers. The crowd parted for the guy and applauded, the big guy turned round and burst into tears on the steps to the main stand. Would have been some sight to see.



Heap of photos from lunchtime today at Celtic park - well over a handful of Rangers fans

http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=430864&pid=5672223#pid5672223
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
4. Casual's turned up to cause trouble, not true fans...decent people but the creeps that can afford a day away from the dole office to get a cheap day return to manc to cause bother.



[Edited on 15-05-2008 by Colin]

Not a chance you can just blame what happend on Casuals, I was there and a good 95% of the folk throwing bottles were wearing replica wear.


That CCTV footage of 200 people chargine the police most didnt have rangers colours on, few had scarfs.
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
4. Casual's turned up to cause trouble, not true fans...decent people but the creeps that can afford a day away from the dole office to get a cheap day return to manc to cause bother.



[Edited on 15-05-2008 by Colin]

Not a chance you can just blame what happend on Casuals, I was there and a good 95% of the folk throwing bottles were wearing replica wear.


I'd blame it on more the ned culture than the casuals, but I wasnt there - just from the videos and comments on FollowFollow
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Colin - i dont wear colours - am i a casual?
Colin
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Yep total hooligan!!

All im saying is in the afternoon manchester town center was a sea of blue tops, in the cctv footage theres not many. I doubt many fans brought their best fighting gear with them to change into for after the game
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I wonder if all the closet huns that came out in recent months will crawl back under their rocks?
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I wonder if all the closet huns that came out in recent months will crawl back under their rocks?


There glory hunters, Of course they will.
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I was away for an hour and just had to catch up with 4 or 5 pages.

Only rangers fans.

Made a complete arse of yourself, used a great man dying as an excuse to not parade your losing team around Glasgow, but of course it's not your fault.

Celtic fans would have done the same even though they have proven time and time again that they won't.

Why are all these spurs fans just being blamed now the world has seen what a bunch of clowns you are, did nobody notice them until 24 hours later?
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I wonder if all the closet huns that came out in recent months will crawl back under their rocks?


Ive been a rangers fan from an early age mostly through mates influences, 90% of my mates are gers fans (Note I said im not a suporter - I dont go to games or buy official merchandise) though im not massive on football & do have other interests. Wont find me in match day very often unless theres something worth talking about.

I just enjoy football now & then, i'll watch pretty much anyone if its on & im in the mood, I warmly accept any free tickets coming my way. You'll laugh the last match I went to was at parkhead Celtic Vs Dunfermline about 3 seasons ago & Dunfermline won 1-0, free corporate tickets from work no one else wanted so I took my old man for some father son bonding
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That guy that was on BBC news about 10 minutes ago talked sense....if anyone was watching?
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I am here to stay, through thick and thin and I will wear my blue shirt with pride...
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I am proud to be a Rangers supporter.

Always have and always will, Been brought up with Rangers fans in my house. Other than that my cousin is going out with a Rangers player.


In Glasgow, Your either Rangers , Celtic or neither.

I enjoy the rivalry between the two but when you get arseholes (John) that cant see when a good deed is being done and putting football to the side, Its then that i realise some are just wanks.
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A bomb explodes in Manchester, 70,000 feared dead, 20,000 critical, Rangers tops & scarves lying everywhere.

Carlsberg don't do terrorism...
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Is the calling me an arsehole because I said about them cancelling the bus.

If you thought they would come back up here after that display and go round glasgow in an open top bus you are an idiot.
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Him calling you an arsehole is because he is an angry un-educated fool unable to argue without trying to arrange fights with people over an internet forum.

That's the facts of the matter.
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I hate all the sectarianism.

Celtic are just the other Glasgow team and they get in the way at the top of the table.
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Is the calling me an arsehole because I said about them cancelling the bus.

If you thought they would come back up here after that display and go round glasgow in an open top bus you are an idiot.


What because unlike Celtic, We wouldnt hide away and feel ashamed.

Rangers lost but they done us proud in getting that far and wanted to show fans there appreciation in support.
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So you think they'd have came up and went round in that bus?

Seriously?
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quote:
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Him calling you an arsehole is because he is an angry un-educated fool unable to argue without trying to arrange fights with people over an internet forum.

That's the facts of the matter.


No, Its because i dont sit and blab off to people knowing that im safely behind a computer where as your all talk.

Un-educated blah blah blah, You dont know me and dont know my grades etc so stfu.
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A bomb explodes in Manchester, 70,000 feared dead, 20,000 critical, Rangers tops & scarves lying everywhere.

Carlsberg don't do terrorism...


thats a bit of a contradiction of the terms is it not, you know with manchester and terrorism in the past

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