BarnshaW
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everything in moderation
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Danny P
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Originally posted by ed
John, most people believe what they are told to believe.
Too right.
If the Government suddenly told everyone it was bad to drive half the nation would give up 
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Gregor
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Those videos of the lad in the pink shirt are fuckin scary ! How come no one is helping him ?
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Doldy
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Call me boring and old but im appalled by this thread. 
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Tom
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Originally posted by John
What truth?
Drugs are bad in general yes but there are people who can take them occasionally because they want to and not get into fights or drive.
People who haven't tried them really don't know what they are talking about.
Quoted for truth 
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DannyB
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Those videos of the lad in the pink shirt are fuckin scary ! How come no one is helping him ?
Because he doesnt need help, he's not ill he's fucked out of his head.
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BarnshaW
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u can get absolutely out of ur face on alcohol? does that make alcohol as bad as drugs? you dont see people in police cells on friday and saturday nights for being "too stoned" from dope or "too happy" from LSD, there all raging and aggressive from alcohol.
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Seany
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quote:
Originally posted by BarnshaW
u can get absolutely out of ur face on alcohol? does that make alcohol as bad as drugs? you dont see people in police cells on friday and saturday nights for being "too stoned" from dope or "too happy" from LSD, there all raging and aggressive from alcohol.
this man speaks sense, ive dabbled in most things but only ever been in trouble with drinking
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Carl
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Those videos of the lad in the pink shirt are fuckin scary ! How come no one is helping him ?
There isn't anything you can do. He will come around eventually and probably won't even remember.
The recent trend of people thinking they are cool as fuck going on about Ket really gets on my tits, I find the people who do GHB even stranger. In regards to both, why go to a party and then sedate yourself? whats the point in that!
[Edited on 06-09-2008 by Carl]
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DAZ1985
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Turned out a good night
snorted and dabbled mdma
snorted the beak
snorted the garys
dropped a viagra
i was erm awake till half 7 and the mrs didnt complain 
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richardworrall
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drugs are shite!!!!
Might sound crap to some of you doing the harder stuff but i was taking weed every day for about a year, stopped a month ago and its been a fuckin nightmare coming off it. Had a constant headache every day since, always feeling anxious, heart pounding for no reason giving me panic attacks.
Never again!!!
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Fraser Young
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I note the 'drugs' vs 'alcohol' as a seperate entity chat.
There are better and more detailed versions of this graph in literature, but included for interests sake. On topic of this thread, you will note ecstasy features on the far right, and alcohol alarmingly near the left.
[Edited on 07-09-2008 by Fraser Young]
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Tom
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What are barbiturates?
That chart doesn't suprise me at all
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Theham85
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Originally posted by Tom
What are barbiturates?
Sleeping pills (I know this because somebody Overdosed on them in Taggart once)
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Fraser Young
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As above. They are nervous system depressants. A bit like what we use Valium/Diazepam for nowadays. Quite old hat, and frowned on now. Hardly prescribed in the UK at all anymore. Still available abroad quite readily.
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Theham85
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Originally posted by Fraser Young
As above. They are nervous system depressants. A bit like what we use Valium/Diazepam for nowadays. Quite old hat, and frowned on now. Hardly prescribed in the UK at all anymore. Still available abroad quite readily.
Is it true they mix badly with Alcohol or is that just a Taggartism?
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Jambo
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I love how drug users argument for Drugs not being bad revolves solely around alchohol
There are no other negative effects on society whatsoever 
Alot of niave people in this thread
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BarnshaW
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but whats the difference between alcohol and say ecstasy? i would say alcohol is more dangerous then ecstasy and yet alcohol is still legal. If the government made say ecstasy illegal i wonder how many people would then accept it. IMO alot of people in here who have no idea about drugs and there effects and just assume things.
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Jambo
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behind all the childish conspiricy theories the main reason is because the still dont know the long term effects. Despite people saying it less dangerous than alcohol, maybe in a way thats true but its a different way of being harmful. Alcohol itself unless consumed in an enormous quantity or pure is not going to do you much damage at all. Its more the effects of being drunk and the fights/injuries that come from that..
Then on the other hand its the actual drug which can be dangerous, not the after effects of consumption. (For e.g epilepsy)
So its not really the same kettle of fish, i am almost 100% posotive that in the future with more research it would be perfectly concievable the E would be legal much like alcohol etc.
But the pure fact is the two are worlds apart and basing an argument on drugs being legal on the fact alcohol is carries as much weight as a feather.
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Tom
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I don't care if they make drugs legal or not tbh, indeed I think it being illegal is one of the reasons I like doing it
Of course there's not as much known about some drugs as there is about alchohol, and it's not really comparable in alot of ways you mention jambo but there's not any other close benchmark to try and use to explain it to people who have never tried any of the aforementioned drugs.
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smack
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the whole ABC system is a mockeray. im doing an assingment on it for some college work at the mo.
30 years ago they say fit just to put the drugs in class's due to myths of how dangouros they are etc. no science just myths and what they throught.
however over recent years science is comming through and proving the whole system blows. ecstacy has been proven incredibly safe (which is why its being downgraded) in conparison to other substance be them legal or illegal.
missinformation and uneducation KILLS not the drug
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DAZ1985
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quote:
Originally posted by BarnshaW
IMO alot of people in here who have no idea about drugs and there effects and just assume things.
agreed
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Wrighty
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quote:
Originally posted by DAZ1985
quote:
Originally posted by BarnshaW
IMO alot of people in here who have no idea about drugs and there effects and just assume things.
agreed
i used to think drugs were really bad, but when you know theyre affects and what they do, they really arnt all THAT bad, for example - ecstacy
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Carl
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as said its about moderation, lots of things are bad for you if you abuse them.
I also think that the word drug is too vast, you are a druggie if you shoot up heroin, you are a druggie if you smoke, you are a druggie if you pop a pill once in a while, to me they are worlds apart. But it is a tough situation for governments, start bring classifications down and it is it a way promoting the usage.
It is defo education too, you can't be that ignorant that you go out on a weekend and smash the fuck out of your kidneys etc at the weekend then start blindly ranting about how bad another substance is. Which is what a lot of people do.
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LeeM
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never tried mdma, used to love e's had a couple nearly every weekend for a couple of years which is really quite bad packed in after last new years eve though.
i like a bit of coke here and there but have never paid for it i see it as a collosal waste of cash!
tried ket once, snorted a little bit and stood in a corner of a club without moving a millimeter for about 4 hours. never aain will i do that!
i also hate weed and have just quit smoking and cut down my drinkin a massive amount. i feel much better both physically and mentally
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