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 i reckon there have been alot more deaths due o murders than animals
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ClaireF
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u sure about that ppl kill other ppl for the most stupist things these days
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SVM 286
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He wasnt doing anything dangerous when he died
He was in the sea though Kerry, and if i'm correctly informed, somewhere near the bottom of it too, which must have inherent risks in itself.
he was snorkeling thus not that deep as he would have been just free diving
ahh, nice one Carr. Thanks for the clarification mate. 
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its not the same though.
a wild animal is unpredictable, hence why they dont let you in the tiger pen at the zoo.
another driver on the road is unpredictable, do you still walk down the path, cross roads and drive on busy roads.
Humans are unpredictable, do you still go to busy places?
*sigh*
yes i go to busy places
yes i use the path
yes other people are unpredictable.
but the fact remains, a tiger, crocodile or suchlike is far more likely to kill you for no reason than another person.
you reckon 
how many tigers do you see in the london underground 
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have you seen the video of the bear that attacks the chinese woman? unprovoked.
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ClaireF
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lol
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*sigh*
yes i go to busy places
yes i use the path
yes other people are unpredictable.
but the fact remains, a tiger, crocodile or suchlike is far more likely to kill you for no reason than another person.
not so at all. More people die at the hands of other humans than animals each year. Humans are just as unpredicatable than animals, plus humans can use weapons, cars, planes, bombs, etc.
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in the same way we've altered the earth so that we have to now take care for some animals that are endangered due to other peoples actions.
why? its like the pollution thing, the damage is done by previous generations, but we have to put up with the crap from trying yo save the world 
its like the people who get pissed off and break into HLS, all because they think testing on animals is cruel. get a grip, we need medical research more than we need mice.
no thats different as those mice are bred for the purpose of testing and if there wasn't testing then those mice wouldn't exist.
wild animals which we and yes previous genereations have begun to kill off is different as they were there before us and haven't been bred for the purpose.
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but the fact remains, a tiger, crocodile or suchlike is far more likely to kill you for no reason than another person.
you reckon
how many tigers do you see in the london underground
you know thats not what i meant.
you go on the underground with 100 people, 100 times, you probably wont die.
you go in a room with 100 tigers, 100 times, you probably will die.
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have you seen the video of the bear that attacks the chinese woman? unprovoked.
have you seen the video of people being beheaded in iraq?
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no.
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Ian
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Thread 
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Carr
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 inevitable though ian
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you know thats not what i meant.
you go on the underground with 100 people, 100 times, you probably wont die.
you go in a room with 100 tigers, 100 times, you probably will die.
yes, but there arent 100 tigers on the underground...they cant press the buttons to get the doors open 
Its regardless though, you accept being in public where a human could kill you as a risk you think is worth taking. As he thought being around these animals to inform and educate was worth taking.
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has anyone heard of the eco system?
id like to see what happens once you start taking out some of these main predators ect
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dont delete it, its actually a good debate and hasnt gone down the normal CS route of insults, etc.
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Robin
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why do all the decent threads get trashed? the one about the royal mail
are we not allowed to discuss things anymore?
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Ian
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Not when it gets personal.
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ClaireF
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if u had 100 tigers in a room i thinkt hey would end up fighting with each other, plus i thinks its the tiger butthey tend to be a solitary animal
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Carr
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it's a little arguementative but that's what happens when people have differing opinions and the world would be a very boring place if we agreed on everything, hence why we have discussion boards.
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i dont think its been personal
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Cosmo
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Its staying, but keep it on topic and NO PERSONAL ATTACKS.
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you know thats not what i meant.
you go on the underground with 100 people, 100 times, you probably wont die.
you go in a room with 100 tigers, 100 times, you probably will die.
yes, but there arent 100 tigers on the underground...they cant press the buttons to get the doors open
Its regardless though, you accept being in public where a human could kill you as a risk you think is worth taking. As he thought being around these animals to inform and educate was worth taking.
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Carr
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i dont think its been personal
i dont think anyone has meant anything personally it can just be frustrating when you are trying to explain something and people just dont listen and are stubborn about things, but again that's life and soemtimes it would be a lot easier if we could just 'delete' our problems
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And because soldiers are defending their (or possibly somebody elses) country, often against their will.
i knew the army was short but forced recruits 
Not familiar with national service Kerry?
Or people that were sent to other countries to fight that didn't want to?
There were plenty of examples of the latter over the past few years when ill equipped, trained and prepaired squaddies were sent to suffer and or die on foreign soil.
sorry i thought we were talking about the uk
You said soldiers and firemen Kerry.
They have both in pretty much all countries as far as I know.
Incidentally, we did have national service in this country.
In recent years, soldiers from the uk were sent as back up to locations in the middle east that they should not have been.
In many cases they were not much more than TA personnel, and probationary MPs were sent into situations they weren't trained or prepared for and as a result, lost their lives.
People were sent short of boots, weapons, supplies, breathing apparatus, and in vehicles that were incapable of operating under the local conditions.
They were hardly gung-ho, armed to the teeth Marines going in to battle fully prepared and aware.
That is all I was saying.
I'm realy not having a go.
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