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because he didnt save people from fire, or war.
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because he didnt save people from fire, or war.
but he has saved a hell of alot of animals, done work to save whole species, probably saved humans from approaching deadly snakes due to educating them on his show, etc.
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hmm i disagre, he knew 100 % how to handle a croc and always had halp at hand, also never took on massive ones solo.
i never saw him diving with great whites with out a cage , which some bloke does and has been for the past 5 years. Some people call that madness others know this guy knows so so much about the animal and how to controll a bad situation if it was to happen.
He has been bitten a few times by venomus snakes on the shows but he always has people who know just as much as him with him , and antidotes ect.
if you ask me it isent as dangores as it seems for him.
To us it would be madness but this guy knows his stuff 
*groan*
And once AGAIN what is the point of being bitten by a venomous snake if its not for TV footage?
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I'm not at all scared and not particularly safe Cosmo, I just don't like the sea, and think it's a pretty unpleasant place.
I have no call to go on aircraft and don't work in the city.
Surely even you as presumably a massive fan of his, must accept that spending your days with animals that are known to kill must be infinitely more risky than almost any other job or pastime?
TBH Im not a massive fan, just respect the guy for what he has done and Im keen on nature things like that so watched it (as I do alot of other presenters)
And yeah, he is around them which have more chance to kill him than we do sat at a desk. But what about on our way to work, busy roads kill more than those animals...
That's more than likely on an averages basis Cosmo, but that's in the case of normal day to day civilians being killed by dangerouas animals.
In this case, the risk is far greater due to the saturation of Mr Irwin's contact.
Pro rata he has always been at far greater risk than anyone else who either lives a normalish day to day existence or even any normal civilian who has suffered animal attack themselves.
A good example of a similar risk level would be that of a Formula 1 driver being involved in a high speeed crash versus that of a normal commuter being involved in a similar collision.
[Edited on 04-09-2006 by SVM 286]
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but animals are not people. animals managed thousands of years fending for themselves.
protecting/saving animals does not happen by throwing a lawnmower at it, hitting it with a stick, or pissing it off to show how vicious it can be.
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A good example of a similar risk level would be that of a Formula 1 driver being involved in a high speeed crash versus that of a normal commuter being involved in a similar collision.
unless your on the same road as prince nasseem 
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does steve have a 8 yr old girl
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but animals are not people. animals managed thousands of years fending for themselves.
protecting/saving animals does not happen by throwing a lawnmower at it, hitting it with a stick, or pissing it off to show how vicious it can be.
no but extinction is caused by over fishing, oil spills, hunting.....
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there was footage of when he was bit on one of his programs. wasent to nice but was on one of his shows
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the irony is he got killed by something which isn't classed as half as dangerous as the beasts he's famous for working with.
[Edited on 04-09-2006 by Jizinho Silva 10]
That is indeed the bitterest of ironies.
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but animals are not people. animals managed thousands of years fending for themselves.
protecting/saving animals does not happen by throwing a lawnmower at it, hitting it with a stick, or pissing it off to show how vicious it can be.
no but extinction is caused by over fishing, oil spills, hunting.....
and? my life will not be any less rich for the lack of a rare monkey in the amazon 
it would however, be less rich if someone close to me was killed by one.
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the irony is he got killed by something which isn't classed as half as dangerous as the beasts he's famous for working with.
[Edited on 04-09-2006 by Jizinho Silva 10]
That is indeed the bitterest of ironies.
Why is it bitter?
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because he didnt save people from fire, or war.
but he has saved a hell of alot of animals, done work to save whole species, probably saved humans from approaching deadly snakes due to educating them on his show, etc.
Im not doing another post here....but FFS cosmo, steve Irwin enlightened the Aus populus about the spiders and snakes they live with?
Thats a bit like telling us jamie oliver told us our kids eat shit food at school 
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but animals are not people. animals managed thousands of years fending for themselves.
protecting/saving animals does not happen by throwing a lawnmower at it, hitting it with a stick, or pissing it off to show how vicious it can be.
no but extinction is caused by over fishing, oil spills, hunting.....
and? my life will not be any less rich for the lack of a rare monkey in the amazon
it would however, be less rich if someone close to me was killed by one.
anyone can say that regardless of how someone is killed
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and? my life will not be any less rich for the lack of a rare monkey in the amazon
it would however, be less rich if someone close to me was killed by one.
what about if that person saved then went on to murder and kill your whole family?
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because he didnt save people from fire, or war.
but he has saved a hell of alot of animals, done work to save whole species, probably saved humans from approaching deadly snakes due to educating them on his show, etc.
Im not doing another post here....but FFS cosmo, steve Irwin enlightened the Aus populus about the spiders and snakes they live with?
Thats a bit like telling us jamie oliver told us our kids eat shit food at school
ahhh but the difference is jamie did something about it 
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Didnt mean he was more at risk of getting hurt than anyone else, as accidents can happen anywhere.
well, it does. fireman are more likely to die from running into a burning building. soldiers are more likely to get shot. i don't mean this in a bad way, but you play with fire, you're gonna get burnt.
but they would die being called a hero
If they did so, then I for one would certainly hope that they would be considered heroes Kerry.
whereas i just think they died doing thier job that they knew full well what the risks were
why does that make steve any different either way?
Why isnt he a hero and why arnt firemen and soldiers idiots
Because firemen are trying to save people's lives and property.
And because soldiers are defending their (or possibly somebody elses) country, often against their will.
Steve Irwin however was merely a sensationalist animal specialist that got/gets a lot of television coverage.
Love him or loathe him, he was no hero.
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And because soldiers are defending their (or possibly somebody elses) country, often against their will.
i knew the army was short but forced recruits
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and? my life will not be any less rich for the lack of a rare monkey in the amazon
it would however, be less rich if someone close to me was killed by one.
what about if that person saved then went on to murder and kill your whole family?
are you attempting to make the arguement even more pointless?
i dont care for animals, i find pets pointless, and i dont see the fuss about dolphins being in danger or anything. i care about people.
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would you be arguing the same if David Blaine had died in his box?
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And because soldiers are defending their (or possibly somebody elses) country, often against their will.
i knew the army was short but forced recruits
if they get sent to iraq they have to go dont they? might be wrong.
my brother went to iraq but he volunteered
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would you be arguing the same if David Blaine had died in his box?
again would be his own stupididy(sp)
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would you be arguing the same if David Blaine had died in his box?
whos arguing??
i thought it was a good debate to be honest
wouldnt it be boring if we all though the same way????
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would you be arguing the same if David Blaine had died in his box?
I hope he would, does my head in that bloke.
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And because soldiers are defending their (or possibly somebody elses) country, often against their will.
i knew the army was short but forced recruits
if they get sent to iraq they have to go dont they? might be wrong.
my brother went to iraq but he volunteered
again they know the risks surely that makes them stupid too if this is what the whole debate is about
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