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they sting you with there thing (cant remember wat its called) hence stingray
he didnt get stung, the barb is what killed him.
You can survive from a stingray sting in 99% of the cases.
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He was filming a documentary on Tiger sharks at the time and wasnt looking for the rays from what Ive read.
Just seems like a freak accident that could of happened to anyone, regardless of if you put yourself in those situations all the time or if it was your first time in the water.
Cosmo mate.
How much footage have you watched of the bloke?
He always finds other species before the one he is looking for....it pads the programme out.
And he ALWAYS baits the bloody things. 90% of the time sting rays spend covered on the bottom. You would have to be above and very close to get 'stung' by one.
I'll await the footage.....I'll place a fair bet he sees one hidden and it takes off hitting him in its wake.
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true true its a shame like
he did do some heart stopping moves with them crocadiles
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Kerry
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And the barbs can be up to 20cm long as this one was
If it was a short one wouldnt of been fatal either
And it wasnt dangerous in comparison to his other work he has done that people are calling him stupid for thats what i meant
Swimming in the sea, diving ect is a hobby/sport
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You would have to be above and very close to get 'stung' by one.
I'll await the footage.....I'll place a fair bet he sees one hidden and it takes off hitting him in its wake.
A tearful bloke on the news told how the ray swam over him when it attacked
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Jodi told me this morning about this, I thought he was joking.
I've been thinking about it all day. The world has lost a good man, for all that work he has done with animals. Quite ironic that he was killed by one.
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Cosmo mate.
How much footage have you watched of the bloke?
He always finds other species before the one he is looking for....it pads the programme out.
And he ALWAYS baits the bloody things. 90% of the time sting rays spend covered on the bottom. You would have to be above and very close to get 'stung' by one.
I'll await the footage.....I'll place a fair bet he sees one hidden and it takes off hitting him in its wake.
Ive seen alot of his footage (from shows since I was younger) and also a few shows on his past (not done by him).
And I doubt it was hidden...the larger ones at that size and that deep in the sea would more than likely be active (Ive kept stingrays in the past)
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He was in the sea though Kerry, and if i'm correctly informed, somewhere near the bottom of it too, which must have inherent risks in itself.
To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't go beyond paddling on the beach at Woolacombe or Newquay even if you offered me money.
I must have a greater sense of self preservation than him.
but that is just ridiculous. If you wont go any deeper due to danger what else wont you do. I hope you dont drive. Go on planes. Go to any major city.
I am not very likely to drown in my car Cosmo. 
Funnily enough, I don't go on planes, and I don't have anything to do with any major cities in the main.
I don't like the sea, and avoid it apart from the odd visit to a very clean beach with clear water, when I like to get my toes wet, so as to make the trip count so to speak.
I don't go in the sea mainly because it is cold and wet and usually dirty in my neck of the woods.
I wouldn't go in a long way anywhere because I am a terrible swimmer and would not wish to drown.
I also don't enjoy the company of the things that live in the sea.
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they sting you with there thing (cant remember wat its called) hence stingray
he didnt get stung, the barb is what killed him.
You can survive from a stingray sting in 99% of the cases.
thats wat i meant lol
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And it wasnt dangerous in comparison to his other work he has done that people are calling him stupid for thats what i meant
Swimming in the sea, diving ect is a hobby/sport
People forget this is how he has been brought up, his dad was the same kind of person. How many people take on lives like their parents?! So to him, it was his every day life, to us it was extraodinary.
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I am not very likely to drown in my car Cosmo.
Funnily enough, I don't go on planes, and I don't have anything to do with any major cities in the main.
I don't like the sea, and avoid it apart from the odd visit to a very clean beach with clear water, when I like to get my toes wet, so as to make the trip count so to speak.
I don't go in the sea mainly because it is cold and wet and usually dirty in my neck of the woods.
I wouldn't go in a long way anywhere because I am a terrible swimmer and would not wish to drown.
I also don't enjoy the company of the things that live in the sea.
OK, I give you that you are def a very safe (scared?) man!
But obviusly not all people are like that and may take a few risks in their life such as venturing into the sea (or choosing a different cerial for breakfast ;p ) and he was one of them. Didnt mean he was more at risk of getting hurt than anyone else, as accidents can happen anywhere.
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yeah i have fear or drowning and sharks so dont go in sea
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Didnt mean he was more at risk of getting hurt than anyone else, as accidents can happen anywhere.
well, it does. fireman are more likely to die from running into a burning building. soldiers are more likely to get shot. i don't mean this in a bad way, but you play with fire, you're gonna get burnt.
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Didnt mean he was more at risk of getting hurt than anyone else, as accidents can happen anywhere.
well, it does. fireman are more likely to die from running into a burning building. soldiers are more likely to get shot. i don't mean this in a bad way, but you play with fire, you're gonna get burnt.
but they would die being called a hero 
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Didnt mean he was more at risk of getting hurt than anyone else, as accidents can happen anywhere.
well, it does. fireman are more likely to die from running into a burning building. soldiers are more likely to get shot. i don't mean this in a bad way, but you play with fire, you're gonna get burnt.
yeah, he was more likey to die by the hands of a dangerous animal. But no more likely to die than you or me. He doesnt drive on busy roads like we do day in day out which kill more people a day than all those animals he is around do in a year.
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I am not very likely to drown in my car Cosmo.
Funnily enough, I don't go on planes, and I don't have anything to do with any major cities in the main.
I don't like the sea, and avoid it apart from the odd visit to a very clean beach with clear water, when I like to get my toes wet, so as to make the trip count so to speak.
I don't go in the sea mainly because it is cold and wet and usually dirty in my neck of the woods.
I wouldn't go in a long way anywhere because I am a terrible swimmer and would not wish to drown.
I also don't enjoy the company of the things that live in the sea.
OK, I give you that you are def a very safe (scared?) man!
But obviusly not all people are like that and may take a few risks in their life such as venturing into the sea (or choosing a different cerial for breakfast ;p ) and he was one of them. Didnt mean he was more at risk of getting hurt than anyone else, as accidents can happen anywhere.
I'm not at all scared and not particularly safe Cosmo, I just don't like the sea, and think it's a pretty unpleasant place.
I have no call to go on aircraft and don't work in the city.
Surely even you as presumably a massive fan of his, must accept that spending your days with animals that are known to kill must be infinitely more risky than almost any other job or pastime?
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Didnt mean he was more at risk of getting hurt than anyone else, as accidents can happen anywhere.
well, it does. fireman are more likely to die from running into a burning building. soldiers are more likely to get shot. i don't mean this in a bad way, but you play with fire, you're gonna get burnt.
was the stingray on fire
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correct Kerry, but they deserve the hero status.
and Cosmo, i see your point now 
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I'm not at all scared and not particularly safe Cosmo, I just don't like the sea, and think it's a pretty unpleasant place.
I have no call to go on aircraft and don't work in the city.
Surely even you as presumably a massive fan of his, must accept that spending your days with animals that are known to kill must be infinitely more risky than almost any other job or pastime?
TBH Im not a massive fan, just respect the guy for what he has done and Im keen on nature things like that so watched it (as I do alot of other presenters)
And yeah, he is around them which have more chance to kill him than we do sat at a desk. But what about on our way to work, busy roads kill more than those animals...
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We probably kill more animals on the roads than animals kill people
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Didnt mean he was more at risk of getting hurt than anyone else, as accidents can happen anywhere.
well, it does. fireman are more likely to die from running into a burning building. soldiers are more likely to get shot. i don't mean this in a bad way, but you play with fire, you're gonna get burnt.
but they would die being called a hero
If they did so, then I for one would certainly hope that they would be considered heroes Kerry.
[Edited on 04-09-2006 by SVM 286]
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I am not very likely to drown in my car Cosmo.
Funnily enough, I don't go on planes, and I don't have anything to do with any major cities in the main.
I don't like the sea, and avoid it apart from the odd visit to a very clean beach with clear water, when I like to get my toes wet, so as to make the trip count so to speak.
I don't go in the sea mainly because it is cold and wet and usually dirty in my neck of the woods.
I wouldn't go in a long way anywhere because I am a terrible swimmer and would not wish to drown.
I also don't enjoy the company of the things that live in the sea.
OK, I give you that you are def a very safe (scared?) man!
But obviusly not all people are like that and may take a few risks in their life such as venturing into the sea (or choosing a different cerial for breakfast ;p ) and he was one of them. Didnt mean he was more at risk of getting hurt than anyone else, as accidents can happen anywhere.
I'm not at all scared and not particularly safe Cosmo, I just don't like the sea, and think it's a pretty unpleasant place.
I have no call to go on aircraft and don't work in the city.
Surely even you as presumably a massive fan of his, must accept that spending your days with animals that are known to kill must be infinitely more risky than almost any other job or pastime?
Yes, it's bound to be risky working with wild/dangerous species but he was qualified and skilled to work with them, the irony is he got killed by something which isn't classed as half as dangerous as the beasts he's famous for working with.
He got paid accordingly for his work, there is risks with anything you do above a certain line, who are we to criticise this?
[Edited on 04-09-2006 by Jizinho Silva 10]
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No no no....
People are missing the point i am making here...and I am sure others will make the same comment as me that that have swam and dived on coral reefs.
You simply DONT fcuk about with these animals in their own environment.
They hide away...its no bloody secret.
Fluke or not Steve had it coming
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Originally posted by Cosmo
Didnt mean he was more at risk of getting hurt than anyone else, as accidents can happen anywhere.
well, it does. fireman are more likely to die from running into a burning building. soldiers are more likely to get shot. i don't mean this in a bad way, but you play with fire, you're gonna get burnt.
but they would die being called a hero
If they did so, then I for one would certainly hope that they would be considered heroes Kerry.
whereas i just think they died doing thier job that they knew full well what the risks were
why does that make steve any different either way?
Why isnt he a hero and why arnt firemen and soldiers idiots
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hmm i disagre, he knew 100 % how to handle a croc and always had halp at hand, also never took on massive ones solo.
i never saw him diving with great whites with out a cage , which some bloke does and has been for the past 5 years. Some people call that madness others know this guy knows so so much about the animal and how to controll a bad situation if it was to happen.
He has been bitten a few times by venomus snakes on the shows but he always has people who know just as much as him with him , and antidotes ect.
if you ask me it isent as dangores as it seems for him.
To us it would be madness but this guy knows his stuff
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