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Really looking forward to this. Alvarez looks really good but Mayweather's experience will be key. Anybody watching this?
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Can't wait, the fight before will be awesome as well.
I can't see past Mayweather personally he will frustrate and spoil Canelo and will more than likely take it on points. Would love Canelo to do it though but I think it's came a couple years too early for him.
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Would love Canelo to do it though but I think it's came a couple years too early for him.
You say that but wasnt he knocking out fully grown men when he turned pro at 15?
43 unbeaten by 23 years of age is very impressive. On paper it reads like Mayweathers toughest opponent for a long long time.
Having said all that its boxing, who know what could happen.
Just hoping for an entertaining fight ultimately!
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Yeah he was completely smashing people when he was 15. Canelo is so powerful I really think he has a good chance of winning but there's a reason mayweather has been at the top for almost as long as Canelo has been alive. It's gonna be bloody excellent
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43 unbeaten by 23 years of age is very impressive. On paper it reads like Mayweathers toughest opponent for a long long time.
That's an incredible statistic!
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Canelo is a fantastic boxer but the stats are slightly misleading. Yes he has a similar amount of fights as Mayweather and yes he was knocking out guys from a young age but then so have plenty of Mexican boxers coming through the ranks. They fight journeymen and regularly whereas Mayweather is a prize fighter and has been fighting top level opponents since the 90's when he won the WBC title against Hernandez. Best comparison (in terms of competition) is whilst Mayweather knocked out Ricky Hatton, Canelo decisioned Matthew Hatton.
Don't get me wrong right enough I hope Canelo smashes him, not that I dislike Mayweather but I like Canelo and his style of fighting.
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Yeah the Mexican progression ladder seems to be more quantity than quality, I appreciate that.
Even a journeyman Mexican hits bloody hard though, so it's still impressive that he's had so many fights without taking a lucky shot somewhere down the line so he must have something about him!
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The most impressive part of Canelo's record is his last fight. Big fight in a big arena against an undefeated opponent. Knocked Trout down for the first time in his career and also weathered a couple of storms when Trout was establishing a solid jab. His power told in the last few though and Trout couldn't handle him by then.
That's why I'm saying I think it's come too early for him though, he's had 1 of those fights whilst Mayweather has had a career of them.
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Canelo is a fantastic boxer but the stats are slightly misleading. Yes he has a similar amount of fights as Mayweather and yes he was knocking out guys from a young age but then so have plenty of Mexican boxers coming through the ranks. They fight journeymen and regularly whereas Mayweather is a prize fighter and has been fighting top level opponents since the 90's when he won the WBC title against Hernandez. Best comparison (in terms of competition) is whilst Mayweather knocked out Ricky Hatton, Canelo decisioned Matthew Hatton.
Don't get me wrong right enough I hope Canelo smashes him, not that I dislike Mayweather but I like Canelo and his style of fighting.
Surely Mayweather would have gone up against a lot of rubbish to begin with as well and Wasnt he only in his early 20s when he got his fist title shot?
End of the day you can only beat whats put in front of you and both have done that their whole careers. Almost a shame that one of them could lose their unbeaten record tonight, unless its a draw which is 20/1 on Sky Bet BTW
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Canelo is a fantastic boxer but the stats are slightly misleading. Yes he has a similar amount of fights as Mayweather and yes he was knocking out guys from a young age but then so have plenty of Mexican boxers coming through the ranks. They fight journeymen and regularly whereas Mayweather is a prize fighter and has been fighting top level opponents since the 90's when he won the WBC title against Hernandez. Best comparison (in terms of competition) is whilst Mayweather knocked out Ricky Hatton, Canelo decisioned Matthew Hatton.
Don't get me wrong right enough I hope Canelo smashes him, not that I dislike Mayweather but I like Canelo and his style of fighting.
Surely Mayweather would have gone up against a lot of rubbish to begin with as well and Wasnt he only in his early 20s when he got his fist title shot?
End of the day you can only beat whats put in front of you and both have done that their whole careers. Almost a shame that one of them could lose their unbeaten record tonight, unless its a draw which is 20/1 on Sky Bet BTW
Yeah, Mayweather was roughly the same age as Canelo is just now when he started his proper run but he had less than half the fights of Canelo by that point.
Agreed you can only beat what's put in front of you but that's why the stats are misleading. Saying they've both had a similar amount of fights and wins doesn't tell the full story.
[Edited on 14-09-2013 by Hammer]
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Do you reckon you could have either of these in a street fight, Hammer?
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I have a world title in half brick usage so, yeah, easily.
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So is anybody betting on this?
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Mayweather on points is a cert IMO but the odds on it make it pointless 1.57 on Paddy Power.
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I've got £20 on Mayweather 8th round.
Can't wait for it to start, first two fights have been shit.
Looking forward to Garcia fight starting now, not going to last long!
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Unsurprising victory as already stated above. Mayweather is a hugely talented fighter who made it look easy. Sucks the fun out of fights though
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Didn't watch, but I reckon the BBC sport article I read could have been written a few weeks ago as the fight seemed to go down as everyone expected
Crazy good boxer to make these rabid mexicans look so harmless
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How could Ricky Hatton have gotten his career so wrong when Mayweather got it so right!
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He fought the best when they were at the top instead of avoiding them?
Can hardly say he got it wrong, he just wasn't as good as the people he went up against
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How could Ricky Hatton have gotten his career so wrong when Mayweather got it so right!
Bit of an odd thing to say I liked Hatton as much as anyone else, but he wasn't in Mayweathers' class.
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Not really, I don't recall ever seeing Mayweather abusing his body and getting fat, underestimating the discipline needed for his sport.
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Oh I'm with you now Not sure whether Hatton would have been as good even with more discipline, but it certainly held him back ultimately.
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Mayweather's next fight.....Amir Khan
Edit - according to Mayweather's dad
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Amir Khan 
Fight went entirely as expected, testament to his conditioning he can do that at 36 but by fuck he is a boring spoiler of a fighter.
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