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alan-g-w
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9th Nov 09 at 18:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I was changing the sump on the motor on Saturday so had the front anti roll bar off to remove the exhaust manifold out of the way. Didn't end up finishing until half 6 or something so it was dark, so in turn I couldn't be arsed re-fitting the ARB and I needed the car that night.

I'd say it's made the car much more grippy in tight corners and roundabouts, whereas before it was much more prone to hedge seeking and just basically going straight on. On big bends I can't really notice a difference to before, but overall it seems to have made it a bit more responsive. I was just wondering if anyone else has tried this and if they think the same. XE corsa with Jamex coilovers by the way.
Nic Barnes
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9th Nov 09 at 18:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

always found it better cornering without an arb with a bigger engine up front.
big eck
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9th Nov 09 at 18:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I was told to take mine off as well when I had my XE corsa as it handles better without it.
Jamie_Hastings1
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Alot of people recommend it with xe/let lumps. I still don't know whether to take mine off.
Ste L
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9th Nov 09 at 18:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Jamie_Hastings1
Alot of people recommend it with xe/let lumps. I still don't know whether to take mine off.


they introduce more understeer with stiffened suspension..

so with an xe, you got more weight up front with will add more understeer, so much better without out at front with an xe..

all in my opinion though
Gareth F
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9th Nov 09 at 18:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Doesnt removing the front arb improve low speed corners but makes the car unstable at high speeds.
Nic Barnes
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in all honesty, no matter what you did arb wise a corsa isnt stable at high speeds lol
Ste L
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quote:
Originally posted by Gareth F
Doesnt removing the front arb improve low speed corners but makes the car unstable at high speeds.


my old xe nova wasn't never unstable at high speed without an front ARB
alan-g-w
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9th Nov 09 at 19:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Glad to hear that it's not just me imagining it then. What happens if you add a rear one then?
IvIarkgraham
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9th Nov 09 at 19:25   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

does it work on small blocks too?
Jake
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does it work on small blocks too?


yep.
ShEp
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Removed mine on my old x16xe, made such a difference, much better.
Gareth F
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I wasnt sure about it, sounds good, i might try it.
Nic what have you done to yours or is it made mainly for straightline action
Scotty C
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Sorry to hi-jack. But how would it effect my Corsa C 1.3 CDTi in the bends? lowered 40/60mm on Apex springs...

[Edited on 09-11-2009 by Monster]
DamoC
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did it on my old corsa xe and it was alot better without it
Gareth F
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To affect a car in the best way would be poly bushes and arb setup
Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by Gareth F
I wasnt sure about it, sounds good, i might try it.
Nic what have you done to yours or is it made mainly for straightline action


its just a car tbh. lowered no anti roll bar, lowered the tie bars off the front panel and thats it. nothing amazing.
Jake
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9th Nov 09 at 19:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

except its running 600bhp
Olsrey
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quote:
Originally posted by jake
except its running 600bhp
Nic Barnes
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except its running 600bhp


nowhere near that
Gareth F
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quote:
Originally posted by jake
except its running 600bhp


nowhere near that


Not until you get your electronic supercharger anyway......

I suppose if i ask people what can i do to make it handle a bit better they would say buy a Gti
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9th Nov 09 at 20:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I would recommend the front removed....and with the addition of a rear one like a whiteline, it makes them corner far better....and then if your really serious start looking at a diff. that is where the difference lies.
Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
Sorry to hi-jack. But how would it effect my Corsa C 1.3 CDTi in the bends? lowered 40/60mm on Apex springs...

[Edited on 09-11-2009 by Monster]
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10th Nov 09 at 06:09   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

best way i found with mine was keeping the front arb and softening the suspension up a bit on the front.
IvIarkgraham
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cant do that on normal suspension though mark. need fancy coilovers for that

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