tomo9992
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ino this is a corsa forum but what the hell.
thinkin of buying 1,
i heard the engine is the same as whats in the rs1800, but just restricted.
can you just replace the parts from an rs1800 engine into the fiesta engien to undo the restriction and get it back to 130bhp?
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DannyB
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Don't know much about the engine but they're a fun little car to drive.
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GSI_Jay
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aslong as its the 1.8 then yes you need rs inlet manifold (stamped HO) ecu maf and cams think thats the lot may have missed something
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tomo9992
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yeh its the 1.8 16v zetec engine.
i think the cat is restricted but ill just decat after mot.
so inlet, ecu, and cams, just straigh off an rs1800 engine and bolt on fiesta 1 yeh?
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DizzyRebel
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The 1.6 CVH is faster than the 1800 zetec.
To ge the 1800 up to power you need to swap cams, inlet and ecu but tbh its not worth tthe hasstle. plus the 16v ones are hard to come by. Just get a CVH, mine was awesome fun - sounded great with a stainless exhaust on!
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--ToM--
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u2u adam d his bros got one
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GSI_Jay
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quote:
Originally posted by tomo9992
yeh its the 1.8 16v zetec engine.
i think the cat is restricted but ill just decat after mot.
so inlet, ecu, and cams, just straigh off an rs1800 engine and bolt on fiesta 1 yeh?
yes and mass air flow sensor theirs an rs inlet on ebay at moment mate day to go 
[Edited on 19-05-2009 by GSI_Jay]
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random dav
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Or stick a 2.0 mondeo engine in, that would be easier. IIRC I think you can use the 2.0 inlet, I loved my RS1800, gonna get another as a track car when funds permit.
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Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by DizzyRebel
The 1.6 CVH is faster than the 1800 zetec.
To ge the 1800 up to power you need to swap cams, inlet and ecu but tbh its not worth tthe hasstle. plus the 16v ones are hard to come by. Just get a CVH, mine was awesome fun - sounded great with a stainless exhaust on!
Faster than what 1800 Zetec? Maybe just maybe the 105bhp 1.8 16v in the XR2i, but not the 130bhp RS1800 1.8 16v.
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DizzyRebel
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by DizzyRebel
The 1.6 CVH is faster than the 1800 zetec.
To ge the 1800 up to power you need to swap cams, inlet and ecu but tbh its not worth tthe hasstle. plus the 16v ones are hard to come by. Just get a CVH, mine was awesome fun - sounded great with a stainless exhaust on!
Faster than what 1800 Zetec? Maybe just maybe the 105bhp 1.8 16v in the XR2i, but not the 130bhp RS1800 1.8 16v.
Thats what i meant. The 16v XR2i had to be de tuned so it didnt outpace the flagship RS1800 of the time. so they dropped power to 105bhp but i think it had a closer ratio gearbox than the CVH so it was barely slower.
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Ojc
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Trouble with CVH they are all quite worn out now, the Zetec is a lot better engine IMO
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Ian W
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quote:
Originally posted by DizzyRebel
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Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by DizzyRebel
The 1.6 CVH is faster than the 1800 zetec.
To ge the 1800 up to power you need to swap cams, inlet and ecu but tbh its not worth tthe hasstle. plus the 16v ones are hard to come by. Just get a CVH, mine was awesome fun - sounded great with a stainless exhaust on!
Faster than what 1800 Zetec? Maybe just maybe the 105bhp 1.8 16v in the XR2i, but not the 130bhp RS1800 1.8 16v.
Thats what i meant. The 16v XR2i had to be de tuned so it didnt outpace the flagship RS1800 of the time. so they dropped power to 105bhp but i think it had a closer ratio gearbox than the CVH so it was barely slower.
I was gutted when I found out how slow the 1.8 2i was, didn't keep it long 
[Edited on 19-05-2009 by Ian W]
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DizzyRebel
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Lol yeah, thats why i got the CVH, was a hoot to drive! Handled really well and you could fire it out of corners at speeds you didnt think an 8v would manage lol!
Its true the CVH's are worn out, but it costs what? £100 to rebuild one? bang a high lift cam in it and stick an ashley manifold and pipe on it and its still cheap fun. I do want another one but 80s-early 90's fords dont come without cancer somewhere on them now.
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tomo9992
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i think ill stick to the 1.8 as all the 1.6s ive seen are very worn out, including shell. the 1.8 ive got my eye on has 51 thou miles and mint condition,
and yes there what 10bhp less than the 1.6 but there just as fast 0-16 and only a few mph down on top speed, but with a few of the restrictions gone, it wont be to bad.
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tomo9992
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quote:
Originally posted by GSI_Jay
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Originally posted by tomo9992
yeh its the 1.8 16v zetec engine.
i think the cat is restricted but ill just decat after mot.
so inlet, ecu, and cams, just straigh off an rs1800 engine and bolt on fiesta 1 yeh?
yes and mass air flow sensor theirs an rs inlet on ebay at moment mate day to go
[Edited on 19-05-2009 by GSI_Jay]
thanks jay, big help
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am4nf
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talk to ~willow~ shes had a fair few fiestas i just bumped my thread that has loads of pics of them in it
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ShEp
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the 105bhp xr3i is just as fast as the 130bhp model.
Same engines in the rs1800 and xr2i
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mark_gsi
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i had a xr2i cvh 109brake standard, had full system 4-2-1 manifold, k&n filter and was chipped apparantly, was quite good for my first car 
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tomo9992
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just seen this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280346584332&_trksid=p2759.l1259
im bidding 
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DizzyRebel
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its missing the cams
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tomo9992
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dont matter, ill get them else where, least ill have everything else.
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Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by ShEp
the 105bhp xr3i is just as fast as the 130bhp model.
Same engines in the rs1800 and xr2i
Eh? They aren't, the 130bhp XR3i is quite rare to find due to the RS2000 being released around the same time with 150bhp. The 130bhp 1.8 16v is miles ahead of the 105bhp, it pulls harder and is so free revving. One of the best engines I've had in a car to date.
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Adam-D
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so much misinformed info in here
and my bro has a xr2.
no injection on it.
he does have a 3i cvh thou.
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Ojc
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Mk5 XR3i has Zetec lumps, 105bhp & 130bhp
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tomo9992
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if i get that kit, because its not got the cams, will i have any gains buy putting the rest on or am i better of waitin till ive got em all?
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