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Neo
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Car ideas please, Parents have both decided to get new cars spurred on by this scrappage scheme.

She has a corsa, doesn't want to spend too much as it will be sratched, crashed..thinking a kia picanto, rio (small but big enough to get a push chair in the boot)

He has a primera, wants something smaller, only does 500 miles a year. Again, nothing too expensive, up to 7 or 8k, doesn't need to be bigger than a 1.6...thinking a c4 vtr+ size ?

Any ideas ?
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the picanto is shit, small and cramped, but the rio is decent for what it is, im sure the engine is the same as an old vauxhall one, and you can rev the shit out of it (not saying your mum will) but it can take it, goes really well cant think of any problems i found while driving them, just bit jobby build quality, felt like an old honda with the boot release on the floor beside the drivers seat

EDIT: it goes like stink if you open the air box and drive it like that plus it gives it a meaty roar

[Edited on 27-04-2009 by am4nf]
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personally i think the new fabias are good value for money,

as for the c4 they are decent to drive and the vtr is quite nippy for a 1.6 considering the weight of the car
Neo
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She wont worry about that. Needs to be woman proof i.e. no clutch made out of butter etc. Small is good, makes parking a lot easier. 50 year old with space perception skills of a racoon on crack means she is forever knocking walls

Trying to talk dad into getting an old m3 or 350z not working atm
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Don't let her get a Picanto - crappy and way too small.

Rio should be ok, and 7 year warranty IIRC.


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indeed, as said pretty bullet proof
Mobby
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quote:
Originally posted by Neo
She wont worry about that. Needs to be woman proof i.e. no clutch made out of butter etc. Small is good, makes parking a lot easier. 50 year old with space perception skills of a racoon on crack means she is forever knocking walls

Trying to talk dad into getting an old m3 or 350z not working atm

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quote:
Originally posted by Neo

He has a primera, wants something smaller, only does 500 miles a year. Again, nothing too expensive, up to 7 or 8k, doesn't need to be bigger than a 1.6...thinking a c4 vtr+ size ?

Any ideas ?



500miles a year? why bother with a new car? if the car goes then leave it. no one makes money on cars and i can see a purchase like that being a total loss.
and as for engine size anything bigger than 1.0 is a waste of time. the insurance, tax, MPG (in Deano's absence) cost just fail to justify anything of any size for 500miles a year. the same as ~40miles/month or 10miles a week!!!

the car will barely have chance to warm up before the journey is over.
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27th Apr 09 at 21:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What spec and year primera is it?
Neo
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quote:
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What spec and year primera is it?


1.6, V reg, 30k iirc

The corsa is a T reg 1.0 12v envoy on 30k too.

He just wants something that looks nice. He's nearly 60, 35 years no claims so he couldnt care less about insurance, he couldn't drive a 1ltr, and it has to be big enough to put suitcases in to drive to gatwick and back (the only journey the car does a couple of times a year)

Hence why i am trying to convince him to get something silly, as he drives it so little its worth having something he can cane and have a bit of fun in.

Really, he wants something cheap, that wont depreciate too much that he can probably keep for 10 years until he hands the keys to my little bro and chucks his meteorphorical driving gloves in the bin.

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quote:
Originally posted by am4nf

as for the c4 they are decent to drive and the vtr is quite nippy for a 1.6 considering the weight of the car


The C4 is shit, and even the VTS is slow.
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quote:
Originally posted by BluKoo
quote:
Originally posted by am4nf

as for the c4 they are decent to drive and the vtr is quite nippy for a 1.6 considering the weight of the car


The C4 is shit, and even the VTS is slow.


Thought it was quite alright tbh, 180bhp, prefer mine though tbh.

End of the day, he has driven a car with 80hp for the last 9 years....he doesn't really care about speed
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My dad has a C4 VTS (the diesel one) and its had fault after fault (typical french shit). Its a 55 plate with only 17k on the clock. It shouldn't have had any problems. Its been a joke tbh.
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27th Apr 09 at 23:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Fiat Panda?

Meant to be great cars
am4nf
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yea there shit, but kinda nippy
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quote:
Originally posted by am4nf
the picanto is shit, small and cramped, but the rio is decent for what it is, im sure the engine is the same as an old vauxhall one, and you can rev the shit out of it (not saying your mum will) but it can take it, goes really well cant think of any problems i found while driving them, just bit jobby build quality, felt like an old honda with the boot release on the floor beside the drivers seat

EDIT: it goes like stink if you open the air box and drive it like that plus it gives it a meaty roar

[Edited on 27-04-2009 by am4nf]


Ever actually driven a Picanto? Spent more than 5 minutes on one?

Picanto is an amazing car for the money, had two in my family now and both have been very loved.

Boot is a touch small though, but just take the pushchair down to the showroom.

Are you sure Kia are taking part in the scrappage scheme?
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yes i've driven a few picanto's
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Driven a new one?
Tommy L
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quote:
Originally posted by Neo
Trying to talk dad into getting an old m3 or 350z not working atm
You do know he won't be able to do the car scrapping scheme if you get something old?

[Edited on 28-04-2009 by corsa_tomtom]
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
Driven a new one?


i work for europcar
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For your mum id be looking at the new ford ka. and your pops an audi a4/a6 estate.

However, if your dads not working - how can he justify scrapping a perfectly good low mileage car he owes nothing on to buy an expensive brand new car thats going to loose thousands of pounds in depreciation? Its wasteful scrapping to very low mileage cars like that.

To be eligible for this you have to buy a newly registered car, and you have to have owned your current vehicle for over 12 months, and ontop of that it has to have a valid mot certificate and tax disc. So in reality your scrapping a perfectly good and useable car... whats green, or the point in that?

This scrappage scheme is big hairy bollocks, as 95% of people who drive 10 year old cars worth less than £2000 cant afford a new car - so this is jut a stupid way of getting more poorer people into debt with finance on a shiney new car they cant afford. A shameful way of bailing out car manufacturers but since 80% of all cars bought in the uk are imports from foreign manufacturers and factorys its just lining the pockets of foreign industrialists and putting us brits even more out of pocket.

Its also worth noting the government are only giving a £1000 grant towards the car, its upto a participating dealer to stump up the extra £1000 on already heavily discounted cars and sort out all the paperwork too so dont be suprised if lots of places wont take part in this.

Another stupid idea by our retard government, useless.
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As much as I haven't seen eye to eye with you in the past Dizzy Rebel I'm with you on this.

If people like your parents go ahead and do this, they are ruining the second hand market.

I am seriously thinking of setting up a website for drivers to show people how much of a mug we are being taken for by Labour.

[Edited on 28-04-2009 by pow]
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This scheme saddens me
pow
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Dizzy, Davey and David all against Labour
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I'm a Conservative man.

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