markx14xe
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if i replace my corsa b 1.4 16v sport engine with a redtop how do i get away with the mot with out telling the dvla and my insurance
i am 19 and can not afford a astra gsi so i just want the engine because i wanna beat 8.8seconds 0 to 60mph ???????
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SeanXE
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Registered: 17th Jan 09
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You cant, it will fail mot on emissions...
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Brett
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Oh god 
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chloe16v
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Originally posted by markx14xe
if i replace my corsa b 1.4 16v sport engine with a redtop how do i get away with the mot with out telling the dvla and my insurance
i am 19 and can not afford a astra gsi so i just want the engine because i wanna beat 8.8seconds 0 to 60mph???????
TWAT 
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l15ter
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Originally posted by loafofbrett
Oh god
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Charlton
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Think about what you are saying mate, you cant just not tell them about the engine change, fair eneogh you will probably get away with it, but what happens if you hit another inocent driver and your insurance is invalid. 
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DizzyRebel
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You will get away with it, it should just pass the upper band of emissions, if it wont then either get a cat fitted or find a 'friendly' mot tester that will help it go through the emissions test.
Also its all big hairy bollocks about all this 'i you hit another innocent driver your insurance is invalid' etc etc cry cry.
If a car with under £2000 book value is involved in an accident its not even inspected, the insurers just ask for photos to confirm the damage then its normally declared total loss depending on the extent of the damage. Anything under £1000 is declared total loss without even bothering with photos.
Its also worth noting that undeclared mods DO NOT INVALIDATE YOUR THIRD PARTY COVER, ONLY FULLY COMP so if you hit somone else your insurance company will always pay out for them, but be reluctant to pay out for you if you also tried to claim off a cully comp policy.
Further more, the only way to test an engine legally for its capacidt is to remove the head and measure bore and stroke, the police stopped doing that in the 70's so you have no worries about getting caught. I had a copper looking under the bonnet of my V6 once and asked if it was a V6, my reply was 'dunno mate, it came like that' and he said i should get it looked at, nothing more. Its nearly impossible for a copper to define an XE under the bonnet of a 4 cyl corsa, so dont worry about it. Just take it for an mot at somone whos friendly with decat cars or bang a cat on it for the test.
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LeeM
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quote:
Originally posted by DizzyRebel
Its also worth noting that undeclared mods DO NOT INVALIDATE YOUR THIRD PARTY COVER, ONLY FULLY COMP so if you hit somone else your insurance company will always pay out for them, but be reluctant to pay out for you if you also tried to claim off a cully comp policy.
you're on the right track, it wont immediately invalidate a policy however if your company investigates they can decide they'll only continue to indemnify you if you pay exra to cover the mods
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pow
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quote:
Originally posted by loafofbrett
Oh god
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Haimsey
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 Sick guy.
Marcy Marc 
White Sport Progress Thread
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DannyB
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You're a fucking muppet.
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DizzyRebel
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quote:
Originally posted by lee_wee
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Originally posted by DizzyRebel
Its also worth noting that undeclared mods DO NOT INVALIDATE YOUR THIRD PARTY COVER, ONLY FULLY COMP so if you hit somone else your insurance company will always pay out for them, but be reluctant to pay out for you if you also tried to claim off a cully comp policy.
you're on the right track, it wont immediately invalidate a policy however if your company investigates they can decide they'll only continue to indemnify you if you pay exra to cover the mods
The thing is, Hot corsas and fords in lincoln are 10 a penny, i know of about 6 XE's involved in a crash, 4 V6's and 2 LETs's that were all involved in collisions and not one of them had been declared on the logbook or to the insurance and not one of them were refused a claim or even found out they had a conversion.
Worst comes to worse they can ask for a bit of extra money off you but tbh i wouldnt let it worry me.
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markx14xe
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thanks for those nice comments u pricks hu are been pricks apart for that i was only asking i dint say i was gonna do it its just i see cars on piston heads and ebay with 12months mot with a redtop and on the log bok as a 1L so :S ok so watch your mouth
DANNYB
cb87
I WAS ONLY ASKING TWATS
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John
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People who do conversions without declaring them are twats.
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DannyB
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lol watch my mouth, what you going to do? E-hit me?
If you can't afford it, don't do it. It's really that simple.
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shaunmods
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quote:
Originally posted by DizzyRebelIf a car with under £2000 book value is involved in an accident its not even inspected, the insurers just ask for photos to confirm the damage then its normally declared total loss depending on the extent of the damage. Anything under £1000 is declared total loss without even bothering with photos.
Sorry but thats complete rubbish. When someone went into the back of me someone came out a did a full inspection of the car and that was for only £165 worth of damage
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l15ter
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yea shaunmods is right, i know someone who had there car inspected for a damaged rover 400 which had done loads of miles and was worth nothing.
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oceansoul
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Why bother buying insurance in the first place then? You might aswell not bother as basically your not insured. Dont be a twat. If you do buy a car with an xe thats as a 1.0 on the books CHANGE IT.
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sand-eel
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quote:
Originally posted by shaunmods
quote:
Originally posted by DizzyRebelIf a car with under £2000 book value is involved in an accident its not even inspected, the insurers just ask for photos to confirm the damage then its normally declared total loss depending on the extent of the damage. Anything under £1000 is declared total loss without even bothering with photos.
Sorry but thats complete rubbish. When someone went into the back of me someone came out a did a full inspection of the car and that was for only £165 worth of damage
same here when a truck reversed into the corsa and the repair was £850.
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cayenne15
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quote:
Originally posted by shaunmods
quote:
Originally posted by DizzyRebelIf a car with under £2000 book value is involved in an accident its not even inspected, the insurers just ask for photos to confirm the damage then its normally declared total loss depending on the extent of the damage. Anything under £1000 is declared total loss without even bothering with photos.
Sorry but thats complete rubbish. When someone went into the back of me someone came out a did a full inspection of the car and that was for only £165 worth of damage
I agree with Shaun!! as when someone went into the back off me a guy came out and did a full inspection and the damage was £1200!!
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Cheese Man Chris
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I'm with DizzyRebel, I know people that right off their cars with engine conversions. nothing ever happens - non of this magnifying glass inspections people talk about. Yes a guy comes with a clip board walks round ticks the big "wright off" box end of. Dosnt even try to lift up the bonnet. This is after they been shitting themselfs cutting bonnet release cables ect so they couldnt lift it anyway, there was no need. Im not saying i would ever drive one tho
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pow
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Don't do full inspections 
Shuttt uppp
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martyn_1.4
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id declare it tbh! peace of mind if nothing else comes of it!! but ive heard of insurance being cancled for people not declaring just wheels suspension exhausts etc, but i also know people who have got away with it! up to you but id personally rather be legal!
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Mike
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If you can't afford to insure it then you're gonna struggle to pay when you hit someone and your insurance find out, pay out for the car you damaged and then post you the bill, not forgetting the potential fraud charge you'd be facing. It does happen, it's amazing how easily you can cause a few grands worth of damage just by hitting the right car.
It's not worth it, yeah you might get away with it but if you have an accident and it ends up going through the insurance there's a very high chance you won't and even if you don't have an accident but you get pulled by a switched on copper there's potential there too, invalid tax, invalid insurance, I've seen it happen before with an XE'd Nova, plus the more popular XE conversions are becoming the more police will be getting to know what different engines look like, it's not exactly hard to tell the difference between an X14 and a C20
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jibjob
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike B
the more popular XE conversions are becoming the more police will be getting to know what different engines look like, it's not exactly hard to tell the difference between an X14 and a C20
i was thinking about not declaring a c20xe but then i thought this exact same thing. the police round here arent stupid they check engine numbers against chassis plates and im pretty sure they would notice the difference without having to do that!
if you cant afford to insure it then its really not worth it. you may aswel be legal as you will more than likely get found out one way or another whether its from a crash or a random spot check or caught speeding at more than a standard car will do etc.
if you are going to go down the route of being illegal and not declaring it youre best option is to go for a 2.0l 8v and grind the engine code off it. Just please stay away from me as im not going to be able to afford repairs if you crash into me
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