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Gareth T
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Theres alot of diesels out there now completing with your LCR/CTR/GSI etc etc and are slowly showing us that sooner or later people might actually own a diesel car with the same if not more power than your typical hot hatch. Has anybody been tempted to go for a diesel of the likes of a fabia vrs with 130 or a new astra with 150bhp rather than a CTR etc.

people's views on diesel & petrol cars nowadays?

Gez G
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I got rid of my Astra GSi Turbo for a Golf GT TDi 130.
whitter45
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new 2.0 bmw dev engine
its a cracker
StueyBoy1989
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im considering a diesel, 130 engine of some sort...due to the ablity to remap them!

but i think there is currently a big push to convert peole to diesels....due to the tax etc. . . .
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Id have a diesel over an equivalent petrol any day, I prefer the more relaxed style of driving a diesel gives
whitter45
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problem I find is the rev range
against my mates CTR its marginally faster due to how much longer he can hold each gear
whitter45
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quote:
Originally posted by dannymccann
Id have a diesel over an equivalent petrol any day, I prefer the more relaxed style of driving a diesel gives


to be fair I think its harder to drive a derv smoothly especially the VAGs

StueyBoy1989
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can you expand on why they are harder to drive smoothly?? espically the VAGs?
daymoon
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i was considering Pug 306 d turbo hdi..

but i couldnt stand the sound of the engine.. and smoke..
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two months ago i bought a brand new 1.9cdti astra with 120bhp and about 200Nm if i remember right

the tax is the same as my 1.2 corsa, the insurance is only 100 quid dearer than the corsa and i get over 400 miles to a tank with mixed driving, and for a few hundred pounds there is much more power to be had so yeah, im a derv convert

the only thing about the car is it sounds like a tractor, but i dont hear it from inside the car


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IMO there good for normal driving. My mates got the new a3 sportline with the 2.0 derv which is miles ahead of most iv driven. It feels really strong and powerfull under normal driving but when driven proppely ie thrashed they just don't excite me

[Edited on 10-12-2008 by Baskey]
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10th Dec 08 at 12:45   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

NEVER!!!

Diesel is dirty


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Gareth T
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quote:
Originally posted by Daniel_Corsa
NEVER!!!

Diesel is dirty


I would have said the same a month ago but I drove my dads fabia vrs and loved it
Pete_vxl
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im looking for a weasel too, looking at 1.7 corsa C's
luke85
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Just bought an A3 diesel sport after selling my corsa LET and im loving it to be honest. At least double the MPG, pretty good performance and smooth as u like.

[Edited on 10-12-2008 by luke85]
Matt L
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i got my ibiza tdi over saving and waiting to buy my mums ciciv sport. just because insurance was alot cheaper. for similar power and better mpg
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quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
quote:
Originally posted by dannymccann
Id have a diesel over an equivalent petrol any day, I prefer the more relaxed style of driving a diesel gives


to be fair I think its harder to drive a derv smoothly especially the VAGs




My mk3 1.9 TDI is torquey as fuck up to 2.5 revs and thats where the power is. So easy to plant your foot on throttle and wheelspin if hammering it out of a junction.
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Furby VRS with a remap would be my 1st choice if i wanted a diesel.
Daniel_Corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by g@z
quote:
Originally posted by Daniel_Corsa
NEVER!!!

Diesel is dirty


I would have said the same a month ago but I drove my dads fabia vrs and loved it


I like my mates Fabia VRs but I just haven't / can't come round to using or ever owning a densel!

If I had a really long commute I would maybe have to but I'd still want a petrol car!

When my old man got his last BMW we test drove the diesel and then the petrol, ended up buying a petrol and the diesel had more torque just wasn't as "fun" to drive.


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JM_16v
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my friend has an Ibiza TDi pushing out 240bhp & 378ft lb id have that any day

but ive thought about going derv a bit but not alot
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tbh I think I'd find it wierd to adapt my driving to a petrol car now!

Last 3 cars I have owned have all been diesel.
Nick-S
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10th Dec 08 at 13:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

give me a high reving petrol anyday

the lack of dev revs realy gets on my tits
also if you dont do that meny miles there not realy worth it.

[Edited on 10-12-2008 by GSi_16v]
whitter45
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quote:
Originally posted by StueyBoy1989
can you expand on why they are harder to drive smoothly?? espically the VAGs?


all or nothing power delivery. they burst inot life at 2k and tail off at 3.8k

Not linear just a massive whack of power

Other dervs are far better although VAG are now common rail so should be better
Gareth T
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10th Dec 08 at 14:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

wasnt there someone on here who had a project thread on a fabia vrs?
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10th Dec 08 at 14:18   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

NovaNeil has a lovely one. "Vsport" had one too

I don't think I'll ever give up my petrol powered motors. I don't care that I'm gettin 20mpg less, and paying more tax. I just love the way it moves through the revs.

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