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dan_c4rsa

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2nd Aug 08 at 11:42

Not the turbo models though.

Had a little play with one last night on way back from leeds and i must say i was right on his arse. I thought they were meant to be nippy?

I love the turbo's though. Some dude has a remapped and FMIC'd one round here and its gorgeous.

Just thought i'd share my dissapointment as im still a vauxhall bummer

SportBoy

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2nd Aug 08 at 11:44

there not fast in a straight line but get behind someone who can drive one properly and the speed it holds in the corners you would never gain back in the nova

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2nd Aug 08 at 11:44

try racing one with corners involved, diffrent story id imagine

Paul_J

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2nd Aug 08 at 11:45

I made exactly you're points the other day in a thread about N/A VX220's and got slated... BEWARE

dan_c4rsa

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2nd Aug 08 at 11:46

quote:
Originally posted by SportyBoy
there not fast in a straight line but get behind someone who can drive one properly and the speed it holds in the corners you would never gain back in the nova

I was in the Seat

And there were plenty of corners

The seat's handling is pretty good now thanks to spacers.

Ah well. I wanna go in a turbo one

DaNnY_LaD

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2nd Aug 08 at 11:47

quote:
Originally posted by jr
try racing one with corners involved, diffrent story id imagine

Jr speaks the Truth..

I kill them in a straight line in my cupra but Once some corners come in to it...

Its a totally different story....

SportBoy

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2nd Aug 08 at 11:49

i remeber racing a turbo one a few years ago ... blitzed him in a straight line then he was all over me in the corners with my front end sliding wide

DaNnY_LaD

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2nd Aug 08 at 11:51

quote:
Originally posted by SportyBoy
i remeber racing a turbo one a few years ago ... blitzed him in a straight line then he was all over me in the corners with my front end sliding wide

Yeah mine was the same...

Paul_J

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2nd Aug 08 at 11:54

quote:
Originally posted by SportyBoy
i remeber racing a turbo one a few years ago ... blitzed him in a straight line then he was all over me in the corners with my front end sliding wide

The thing is, if you had a proper FWD car which doesn't understeer - and similar level of grip in the tyres, I think a FWD car (which handles well) could stick with a VX220 on the road.

People always say it'll thrash a hot hatch / FWD car easily in the twisties. But based on what? Only on the fact that naturally the VX220 have a good balanced chassis and won't understeer.

But think Touring cars, the FWD cars are just as quick as the RWD cars as they've been made not to understeer and are equally as balanced and grippy on the tyres.

Paul_J

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2nd Aug 08 at 12:03

P.S. Proper FWD Car = Clio Trophey (or something like that).

dan_c4rsa

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2nd Aug 08 at 12:05

or a 225 f1

SAL

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2nd Aug 08 at 12:09

I followed a NA one on the M1 doing about 80mph, he could bunny hop his from lane to lane as if he was on a bmx.

dan_c4rsa

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2nd Aug 08 at 12:14

did he get like 3 skateboard decks high?

SAL

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2nd Aug 08 at 12:16

bunny hop, not ollie

dan_c4rsa

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2nd Aug 08 at 12:20

doesnt matter.

i used to bunny hop my mates decks

SportBoy

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2nd Aug 08 at 12:40

i must ad i was running the porsche wheels when i had a play .. one of the reasons i took them off .. no front end grip

Nick-S

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2nd Aug 08 at 12:42

quote:
Originally posted by SportyBoy
i must ad i was running the porsche wheels when i had a play .. one of the reasons i took them off .. no front end grip

why?

Paul_J

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2nd Aug 08 at 13:04

quote:
Originally posted by GSi_16v

quote:
Originally posted by SportyBoy
i must ad i was running the porsche wheels when i had a play .. one of the reasons i took them off .. no front end grip
why?

Heavy? rediculously low profile tyres?

Paul_J

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2nd Aug 08 at 13:08

Sporty Boy, have you got a stiff rear anti roll bar? may help if you upgrade that?

Fad

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2nd Aug 08 at 13:14

Are people missing the fuller picture here?

The VXX220 is a focused driving car that has press rave reviews.

FWD Cupra turbo..rubbush chasis and poise of an overweight troll.

The only reason you kept up with a VX220 NA was purely down to his driving skills...and I would bet my bottom dollar on that too.

[Edited on 02-08-2008 by Fad]

SportBoy

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2nd Aug 08 at 13:25

quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
Sporty Boy, have you got a stiff rear anti roll bar? may help if you upgrade that?

yeah .. ive been on track with it once and was really really suprised how good it was etc .. just that night it wasnt happening for me

.. it was winterish time too so prob salt on the road.

chris_uk

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2nd Aug 08 at 15:46

well since i have one i feel compelled to reply..

the standard 2.2 isnt that quick in a stright line.. what alot of ppl forget is that its 145bhp... yes thats it so once your rolling its pretty slow compaired to most..

but the 0-100 is pretty good and the cornering o the car is well up there..

in scotland i was playing with some bike and he only past me on the straight then i caught back up fairly sharpish.. i wish id of got a video..

watch this for stright line speed.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oIu6JNs70h0

chris_uk

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2nd Aug 08 at 15:50

and also, ppl have found to be going round the track just as fast in an NA than in a turbo..

jsut to pop a spaner into the works.

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2nd Aug 08 at 18:15

FMIC on a mid mounted engine. That's an interesting concept.

[Edited on 02-08-2008 by ed]

richc

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2nd Aug 08 at 18:26

quote:
Originally posted by ed
FMIC on a mid mounted engine. That's an interesting concept.

[Edited on 02-08-2008 by ed]

The big power MR2 boys do it

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