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luke85

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Registered: 26th Nov 07
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9th Jul 08 at 20:07

Seriously thinging about getting rid of the corsa for something newer, Ive had corsas for 5 years since I was 17 and have loved them all but thinkits time for a change.

Whats really taken my fancy is a mk4 golf with an R32 kit

Now im looking for about 350BHP in the golf so have a few choices to make:

1) Get a GTi (about 4k) with an R32 kit and build up a new GTi engine (about 3-4k) to make the power I want. This would work out cheaper than getting an R32 but I would be stuck with 2WD

2) Get an R32 (about 10k) and start with that, probably do away with the V6 for a lighter 4 pot which i think would be easier to get 350BHP than tuning the V6. Again I would neeed to spend 3-4k on a GTi engine but I would be able to make some money back by selling the R32 engine. This way I would have 4wd which would reallly help with that level of power.

3) Get an R32 and tune it. Not really looked into this but would have thought its a non starter really, only way to make big power would be a supercharger or twin turbo which is likely to work out more than tuning a GTi engine

Does anyone know of anyone with a high power golf? Is there a 2L turbo engine I could start with rather than the 1.8 golf one? Im assuming a GTi engine will mate up with the R32 gearbox, does anyone have any info on this?

Going to sit and do some research on this tonight to get my head round it a bit more but any advice or opinions from you guys would be much appreciated

andy1868

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9th Jul 08 at 20:11

the R32 sounds fantastic. do not under any circumstances get rid of the engine

luke85

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9th Jul 08 at 20:14

I just dont want to go for anything slower than the corsa and I know the golf is a heavier car. R32 has 240BHP and my corsa at the mo is 291BHP

Also love the sound of a big turbo spooling up over NA any day

Ben G

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9th Jul 08 at 20:16

getting an r32 and chucking the engine out of it is an insane thought

luke85

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9th Jul 08 at 20:19

Its cool if im missing something here and it would be easier to get that power from the R32 engine but I just couldnt see tuning the V6 to 350 BHP could be done cheaper than a single turbo 1.8-2L turbo engine to the same power. The general thought is keep the V6 then?

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9th Jul 08 at 20:22

Where does this 350bhp figure come from? I'm going to put my neck out and say an R32 will probably be quicker than your more powerfull Corsa.

P.S. I don't care about how fast it is in a straight line. That's not really a true test of a cars performance.

Corsa_Sport21

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9th Jul 08 at 20:23

Why not look past the golf and get an Audi S3??
Or if ur dead set on a 4wd turbo golf then get a 4motion v6 and chuck that engine.

pow

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9th Jul 08 at 20:24

W reg or before plz

Corsa_Sport21

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9th Jul 08 at 20:25

And uv gotta remeber,the 4wd system (Haltec iirc) isnt a good system.Its FWD most of the time until it suspects wheelspin,then it puts power to all 4 wheels.1 of the worst 4wd systems.

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9th Jul 08 at 20:27

pmsl at dumping the 32 engine from an R32

also, the haldex system, although FWD mainly, isnt the worst, not sure how you have worked that out

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9th Jul 08 at 20:27

also i have never seen a 32 for 10k, although i have never looked

anni's are stil up at that cost

DannyB

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9th Jul 08 at 20:30

R32 all the way, absolutely love them.

Click

Corsa_Sport21

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9th Jul 08 at 20:31

Defeats the purpose of 4wd thats why.
Never said it was the worst,just imo its one of the worst.
Id rather have full time 4wd.

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9th Jul 08 at 20:35

why have full time 4wd when you dont need it all the time

more tyre wear, worse MPG, more power losses.

Corsa_Sport21

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9th Jul 08 at 20:36

So why get 1 in the 1st place??

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9th Jul 08 at 20:39

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Defeats the purpose of 4wd thats why.
Never said it was the worst,just imo its one of the worst.
Id rather have full time 4wd.

im not a fan

but its a reliable system, very rarely fucks up, and is still 4wd when needed

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9th Jul 08 at 20:41

see past that

You want 4wd when you need it.... on demand, or via controlled measures.

Our cars...

Navara - has selectable RWD, 4WD, 4WD Hi. It drives a lot smoother in RWD, I'd only switch it to 4WD if I NEEDED the traction.

Skyline - The car is a conventional RWD UNTIL slip is detected in the rear wheels (or lateral movemnt via G sensors (altered by Torque Split Controller)). It then will shift varying amounts of torque to the front to keep control. It seems to work well and will pull the car out of some messes that would end up in a spin if you kept throttle in RWD.

You dont need 4WD on a normal daily drive down a motorway/through down. Its a fashion trend.

Corsa_Sport21

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9th Jul 08 at 20:42

quote:
Originally posted by jr

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Defeats the purpose of 4wd thats why.
Never said it was the worst,just imo its one of the worst.
Id rather have full time 4wd.

im not a fan

but its a reliable system, very rarely fucks up, and is still 4wd when needed

Im also pretty sure ive read somewhere about a controller to adjust which wheels receive most of the drive for arse out action??
If thats true then i suppose it does have its advantages.

Colin

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9th Jul 08 at 21:03

R32 TT

luke85

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9th Jul 08 at 21:06

Cheers for the replies guys, was needing to know if the 4wd system is going to be reliable at that sort of power as well.

ED: The figure of 350BHP is just the target I have set myself for the next project

Jr: Golf R32s are avaliable for that kind of money, Im interested why everyone thinks I should keep the R32 engine. Ive learned that tuning a NA engine doesnt get you anywhere near the gains of building a turbo engine on the same budget

luke85

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9th Jul 08 at 21:09

Colin: I got a quote from a VW tuners near me, they wanted 16K for a TT conversion and would be 450BHP.

Im going to be doing the work and mapping myself so was hoping to get the complete engine done for 3K, think that would be a bit stretched on a TT conversion. Nice thought though

antnee

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9th Jul 08 at 21:28

the 1.8 20v turbo's will be the easist to get big gains from, some people get 220-250 from just a remap!!

O a R32 bodykit will set you back about £1000 for a full genuine kit

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9th Jul 08 at 21:28

just pop a low pressure turbo or SC onto the V6.... it'll take a bit off boost

luke85

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9th Jul 08 at 21:33

Ive joined a VW site now so will spend a few hours browsing there. I just thought it would be similar to someone coming on mig with a C25XE saying they wanted 350BHP, It would be much easier to drop a tuned C20LET in.

Still at the idea stage now anyway, just doing some research and seeing if its worth doing. Cheers people

Jambo

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9th Jul 08 at 22:00

calinra was constant 4x4 it felt very solid all the time, a nice driving experience and it wasnt much worse on fuel than fwd.

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