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neil h
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27th Jun 08 at 07:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Right boys and girls, here's one for you all. How much power could i conceivably get from a tuned C20LET? With out going to silly on the cash side of things obviously.
FruitBooTeR
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How longs a ball of string?

Need a budget mate...
neil h
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Ok, lets maybe look at it a different way if its easier.

How much would i need to spend to Hit 500bhp at the wheels?
Shane
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quote:
Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
How longs a ball of string?

Need a budget mate...


a ball of string is as big as you want it to be and a piece of string is as long as you want it to be
DaveB
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quote:
Originally posted by neil h
Ok, lets maybe look at it a different way if its easier.

How much would i need to spend to Hit 500bhp at the wheels?


Reliably, for a decent amount of time - £10k
Just once, down a strip - £2k
av it
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5k average
phil_sutton
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Steel bottom end and the nitrous the hell out of it, can be done cheap enough and proves results as well.
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quote:
Originally posted by phil_sutton
Steel bottom end and the nitrous the hell out of it, can be done cheap enough and proves results as well.


cost?
jimmy 2.1
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27th Jun 08 at 08:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Is aiming for 500bhp just for pub talk or is it going to be set up to cope with it?

A member on here called Bux has a really well set up LET (that he's built by himself!) thats not running stupid amounts of power (around 280bhp iirc) and it ran a 12.2sec quarter down at the Pod earlier this year, and thats without the Nitrous running.

Now if i'm correct, Muppetsport ran mid 12's with 442bhp, which goes to show, power isn't everything, its the whole package you want

[Edited on 27-06-2008 by jimmy 2.1]
av it
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quote:
Originally posted by jimmy 2.1
Is aiming for 500bhp just for pub talk or is it going to be set up to cope with it?

A member on here called Bux has a really well set up LET (that he's built by himself!) thats not running stupid amounts of power (around 280bhp iirc) and it ran a 12.2sec quarter down at the Pod, and thats without the Nitrous running.

agreed the power needs to be useable

Now if i'm correct, Muppetsport ran mid 12's with 442bhp, which goes to show, power isn't everything, its the whole package you want
neil h
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Well it's an idea i'm toying with to go into a westfield SE kit car. Trying to hit the magical 1000bhp per tonne.

But if its gonna cost me a fortune i can live with 5 or 600 bhp per tonne happily.
Ash_EP3
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Why would you want 500bhp on a light FWD car? prepare for new sets of wheels every month!? (surely you would spin in 1st 2nd and 3rd everytime? )

However wheel spinning in 6th at 70mph must be a rather good adrenaline rush
Rob126
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27th Jun 08 at 09:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

since we're quite on topic, how much power could you have on a LET with standard internals?
Rob126
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quote:
Originally posted by neil h
Well it's an idea i'm toying with to go into a westfield SE kit car. Trying to hit the magical 1000bhp per tonne.

But if its gonna cost me a fortune i can live with 5 or 600 bhp per tonne happily.


go for a megabusa turbo then, could get 500bhp / 600kg 'easily'
neil h
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quote:
Originally posted by S214_UPP
Why would you want 500bhp on a light FWD car? prepare for new sets of wheels every month!? (surely you would spin in 1st 2nd and 3rd everytime? )



The westfield SE is RWD and the reason i fancy doing it is partially from the engineering point of view and being able to say i did it. And also because its the only forseeable way i could get to play in something that quick.
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quote:
Originally posted by neil h
quote:
Originally posted by S214_UPP
Why would you want 500bhp on a light FWD car? prepare for new sets of wheels every month!? (surely you would spin in 1st 2nd and 3rd everytime? )



The westfield SE is RWD and the reason i fancy doing it is partially from the engineering point of view and being able to say i did it. And also because its the only forseeable way i could get to play in something that quick.


Ah my bad, thought you were putting it into a corsa

Good luck to you sir
neil h
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob126

go for a megabusa turbo then, could get 500bhp / 600kg 'easily'


I had contemplated going for a turbo'd hayabusa engine but it would potentially be mean more work with the gear box and such like where as i can get a LET quite cheap.

That and i'm more at home with the LET and know people locally that would be able to help out with the work (where as i don't know anyone with a hayabusa turbo).
xa0s
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quote:
Originally posted by neil h
And also because its the only forseeable way i could get to play in something that quick.

Buy a bike -- it's a lot easier! I was on 650bhp per ton (IIRC) and that cost me £3k. And that was only a 600...
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27th Jun 08 at 09:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

^^ True Motorbikes are in a different league in comparison to most cars... but:
What is more safe?
What corners better?
What is more practical?


*Zips Up*
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
quote:
Originally posted by neil h
Well it's an idea i'm toying with to go into a westfield SE kit car. Trying to hit the magical 1000bhp per tonne.



You want 1000bhp/ton? but you only want 500bhp? How are you planning getting a Corsa LET down to 500kg's?!

[Edited on 27-06-2008 by Monster]


He's not going to use a Corsa
WTF WHERE IS YOUR QUOTE?

[Edited on 27-06-2008 by S214_UPP]
xa0s
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quote:
Originally posted by S214_UPP
^^ True Motorbikes are in a different league in comparison to most cars... but:
What is more safe?
What corners better?
What is more practical?


*Zips Up*

I can't imagine a 500bhp Westfield SE kit car being much safer or more practical tbh. And I'd give him a go around the corners.
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quote:
Originally posted by SRi Luke
quote:
Originally posted by S214_UPP
^^ True Motorbikes are in a different league in comparison to most cars... but:
What is more safe?
What corners better?
What is more practical?


*Zips Up*

I can't imagine a 500bhp Westfield SE kit car being much safer or more practical tbh. And I'd give him a go around the corners.


From my experience, a light fast car would kill a motorbike through the corners (when I say experience I mean me playing on PGR4 )
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On paper it would (and should), but if you've got a nut of a rider and a not-so-fast driver, things might happen differently... Just gotta pray for a not-so-fast driver now.
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quote:
Originally posted by SRi Luke
On paper it would (and should), but if you've got a nut of a rider and a not-so-fast driver, things might happen differently... Just gotta pray for a not-so-fast driver now.




Yea true, if say you've got Rossi on an R1 or R6 against your average jo then the bike would probably kill them

However if say the driver was the stig and he was driving a caparo T1 then the bike wouldn't stand a chance!!!
Scotty C
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27th Jun 08 at 10:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by S214_UPP
quote:
Originally posted by Monster
quote:
Originally posted by neil h
Well it's an idea i'm toying with to go into a westfield SE kit car. Trying to hit the magical 1000bhp per tonne.



You want 1000bhp/ton? but you only want 500bhp? How are you planning getting a Corsa LET down to 500kg's?!

[Edited on 27-06-2008 by Monster]


He's not going to use a Corsa
WTF WHERE IS YOUR QUOTE?

[Edited on 27-06-2008 by S214_UPP]


I deleted it because I realised he's not using a Corsa

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