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will_ainsworth
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right i know the civics are 2L and are around 200bhp iirc, but a mate of mine said last night that a gti would keep up with one... what would a race be like? i would have thought the type r all the way but i know its heavier and the gti is like a tin can...
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Nope, not a chance.
Ste L
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i'd say it would be around equal, due to 106, being made of tinfoil and not weighing much, and the civic being a tank
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CTR is quicker - there was athread many moons ago which referemced Nik, i think, who has owned both and stated the CTR is quicker
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Originally posted by red_top
Nope, not a chance.


Talking from experience, Mate has a type R, i had a VTS, level, also raced a 106 gti while i was in his type R, again level.
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The weight would make a difference, but not much.The type r has around 70-80 more bhp than the gti?
Rob B
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CTR is quicker - there was athread many moons ago which referemced Nik, i think, who has owned both and stated the CTR is quicker


its impossible to own both and just cause youve owned both say the other is quicker, a red-top corsa feels quicker than my ibiza, however its miles off in a race
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Ok, i stand corrected
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Originally posted by red_top
Ok, i stand corrected


So why state not a chance if you dont actually know ?
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They would be neck and neck to a certain extent! I'd imagine the CTR would eventually start pulling away slowly.
Ste L
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So why state not a chance if you dont actually know ?



exactly...

redtop corsa is equal, if not faster (seen an ecowreck beat a type r in a race )
and a 106gti is on par with a redtop corsa,

then i would say it's equal like i said

[Edited on 17-03-2008 by Ste L]
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Originally posted by whitter45
CTR is quicker - there was athread many moons ago which referemced Nik, i think, who has owned both and stated the CTR is quicker


its impossible to own both and just cause youve owned both say the other is quicker, a red-top corsa feels quicker than my ibiza, however its miles off in a race


Rob clam down I was merely referencing the thread
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So why state not a chance if you dont actually know ?


It was a guess, you would think the type r would be faster.
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How is it impossible to own both Rob? But I agree, the CTR will always feel quicker than a 106 due to the pulling when it hits Vtec yo.
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Upto 90/100mph id say they'd be about equal then the CTR would pull away.

Same with an XE Corsa vs GTi from 90/100 the Corsa wins.

Raced a CTR in an XE Corsa and from 120mph the CTR slowly pulled away.
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quote:
Originally posted by will_ainsworth
right i know the civics are 2L and are around 200bhp iirc, but a mate of mine said last night that a gti would keep up with one... what would a race be like? i would have thought the type r all the way but i know its heavier and the gti is like a tin can...


Your mate is true to a certain extent. A friend of mine has a CTR and he once had an encounter with a 106 GTI. He said he was pulling away slowly from the GTI, but not as quickly as he thought he would. Think it upset him a little
Tommy L
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gti would have it in the twisties
Jas
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on the road there wouldn't be much in it til a higher speed imo!

CTR WOULD ALWAYS have the edge though i!
Stu
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To 60 there wouldnt be much in it, to 100 the Civic would bury it!
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What about when VTEC kicks in yo!1?
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What about when VTEC kicks in yo!1?


When that happens the T1000 is sent back in time to save John Connor.
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Depends if its downhill with the wind tbh imo
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Depends on car, condition, gear changes etc etc...

I.E SOME 106's can outpace a 2.0 16v Corsa.

Some can't

SOME corsa 2.0 16v can outpace a Type R

Some Can't.

Ive not had an issue with a 1.6 16v Pug/Saxo, but also slightly lost out ona Type R.

So depends on engine, car, driver, and whether the 106 is going downhill......
Rob B
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Originally posted by Eckmcmann
How is it impossible to own both Rob? But I agree, the CTR will always feel quicker than a 106 due to the pulling when it hits Vtec yo.


I know what i ment, i ment that from owning both you can judge which is quicker, one may "feel" quicker but actually isnt.
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my 147 bhp gti can pass one, albeit slowly passes it...

so a standard gti would get beaten imo.

a 160 bhp gti would thrash one tho

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