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Theham85
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6th Mar 08 at 13:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have a 1.6 16v sport and I see a lot have been converted to 2.0 16v, obviously there is a 45bhp increase, but is it worth the engine swap or to just modify existing engine, I have never driven a redtop corsa and was wondering are they superfast compared to the 1.6?, that is all thanks
FruitBooTeR
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6th Mar 08 at 13:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Depends how much money your willing to throw at the 1.6 tbh
Whittie
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6th Mar 08 at 13:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I used to have a corsa sport, and now have a redtop.

I was suprised at the power difference to be honest. Wasn't expecting it to be as much as it was.
Dean_W
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6th Mar 08 at 13:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I tuned my 1.6

I also had it converted to a 2.0

I wouldn't bother tuning a .16 again. It takes a lot of money to get done i.e. look at Dave A and Brosters spec sheets.

The 2.0 is a hoot to drive, you can tell you have a heavy front though, and thats the advantage of the 1.6 imo. The car handles as it was supposed to.
Ricky352
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6th Mar 08 at 14:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The 1.6 will handle better than the red top. Also the red top is about 45bhp more, but also has a lot of tuning capabilities.
Superlite Ltd.
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6th Mar 08 at 14:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

an extra 45bhp is MASSIVE

not to mention all the extra torque you get.

There is no replacement for displacment
(apart from boosted engines)
jambo166
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6th Mar 08 at 14:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it would cost you more to gain an extra 45bhp from a 1.6 than it will to do the complete 2.0 conversion plz correct me if im wrong
Dean_W
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6th Mar 08 at 14:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Superlite Ltd.
There is no replacement for displacment



So true.

It makes such a difference, tickle it at 110 down the motorway, set off quick with hardly using the throttle.

I want another
Superlite Ltd.
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6th Mar 08 at 14:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

More importantly, if you tune a 1.6 to make 150bhp at say 7200rpm

the c20xe is still going to make loads more power at 2500rpm so driving it round town is alot nicer. Peak power should not be the complete focus, there is more to it than that.
jambo166
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6th Mar 08 at 14:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

buy this its already done

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/405444.htm
Dean_W
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6th Mar 08 at 14:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thats a 1.4, and it's a 2003.
jambo166
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6th Mar 08 at 15:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Dean_W
Thats a 1.4, and it's a 2003.


and your point is what its a small extremly tuned engine i was only showing every one
Fro
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6th Mar 08 at 15:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Beat my mates astra VXR and ST focuses to 60 many a time, and is very close to both up to about 80+ when they will start to pull away.

I went from a 1.6 to a 2.0 and its worth it! they are alot of fun even with the top heavy end
Ricky352
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6th Mar 08 at 15:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What would the 0-60 of an XE be?

[Edited on 06-03-2008 by Ricky352]
Ian W
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6th Mar 08 at 15:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Redtop everytime, so much more fun than the 1.6 (in standard form)
Fro
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6th Mar 08 at 15:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ricky352
What would the 0-60 of an XE be?

[Edited on 06-03-2008 by Ricky352]


Between 6 and 7 secs. More than likely about 6.5 ish.
Ricky352
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6th Mar 08 at 15:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cheers
jr
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6th Mar 08 at 15:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

tune the 1.6

inlet, manifold, cams, exhaust

comming from someone building a horribly expensive 2.0
Gaz
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6th Mar 08 at 15:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Theham85
I have a 1.6 16v sport and I see a lot have been converted to 2.0 16v, obviously there is a 45bhp increase, but is it worth the engine swap or to just modify existing engine, I have never driven a redtop corsa and was wondering are they superfast compared to the 1.6?, that is all thanks


I have done this jump - It will be the best and worst thing you will have ever done...

nuff said
Olsrey
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6th Mar 08 at 15:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Get a good engine and yes. If you get a bad engine you will hate them .

[Edited on 06-03-2008 by Olsrey]
Matt_b
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6th Mar 08 at 16:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by jr
tune the 1.6

inlet, manifold, cams, exhaust

comming from someone building a horribly expensive 2.0


How much roughly does it cost to rebuild an c20xe?
Olsrey
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6th Mar 08 at 16:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Matt_b
quote:
Originally posted by jr
tune the 1.6

inlet, manifold, cams, exhaust

comming from someone building a horribly expensive 2.0


How much roughly does it cost to rebuild an c20xe?


Depends on the extend of the rebuild. I've been quoted a maximum of £900 for almost everything except things like pistons, conrods etc.
Matt_b
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6th Mar 08 at 16:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Olsrey
quote:
Originally posted by Matt_b
quote:
Originally posted by jr
tune the 1.6

inlet, manifold, cams, exhaust

comming from someone building a horribly expensive 2.0


How much roughly does it cost to rebuild an c20xe?


Depends on the extend of the rebuild. I've been quoted a maximum of £900 for almost everything except things like pistons, conrods etc.


What about if you do it yourself, how much would it be for just the parts on say a 100,000 + engine?
Dean_W
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6th Mar 08 at 16:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

There is no how much would it cost.

It depends how far you want to go.
Matt_b
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6th Mar 08 at 16:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Do you mean like with standard parts? Or how big the rebuild is?

Edit - What does need replacing on a high mileage xe?

[Edited on 06-03-2008 by Matt_b]

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