16V_1600
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Just wondering really, what are the weights of engines:
X16XE from a 1.6 Sport
C20XE from Calibra
C20LET from Calibra
How would a stripped 16XE fare up against a C20XE with full interior etc?
I see Dave A is getting 200bhp from a 1.6 
How much would this cost out of interest?
I have a 1.6 Corsa sport on a 2000 plate, with filter and exhaust/decat and just wondering of the cost for 200bhp from this engine?
Thanks 
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Robin
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O.M.G canofworms.
C20XE is about 70kg heavier IIRC.
200bhp from an X16XE is nothing 
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Robin
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Oh, cost wise, you're looking at about £5k, roughly.
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jr
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having lifted them both (well 2 of us), i just cant see how a xe is that much diffrent to an x14xe
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Robin
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You've just got stonger in the 46 years it's been between engines James.
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jr
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Matt H
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
You've just got stonger in the 46 years it's been between engines James.
Either that or wind erosion has worn down the new engine
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16V_1600
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quote:
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Oh, cost wise, you're looking at about £5k, roughly.
Cheaper for LET conversion? instant 200 bhp?
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jr
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yes for power, depends if your just after easy power, or a light small rev tastic engine
i would go down the cams/headwork/inlet etc on the 1600, get around 140-150bhp and use that 
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Robin
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Like I say, that's a rough price, plucked out of the air.
You'd need
Throttle bodies (with fuel rail, inlet manifold, linkage)
Cams
Headwork
Management
Mapping
Exhaust
Exhaust manifold
plus any little other bits, like injectors, filter etc.
Totally depends what sort of car you want though. Personally, I'd go for a tuned N/A engine every time in a Corsa, but if you're only bothered about numbers, the LET is the 'easy' way to 200bhp, yes.
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dhdev
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http://www.kitcar-trader.co.uk/weights.php
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jr
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Vauxhall Ecotec 1600cc Vauxhall Engine (complete) 100 kg 24th Jan 2008
Vauxhall 2.0 XE Vauxhall Engine (complete) 140 kg 24th Jan 2008
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jr
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nice link btw Oli, no wonder you'd be the one to have that saved 
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16V_1600
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
yes for power, depends if your just after easy power, or a light small rev tastic engine
i would go down the cams/headwork/inlet etc on the 1600, get around 140-150bhp and use that
I guess coming from a 310bhp MR2 GTS, I like to be thrown back in my seat, which is why I'd rather a LET 
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16V_1600
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Vauxhall Ecotec 1600cc Vauxhall Engine (complete) 100 kg 24th Jan 2008
Vauxhall 2.0 XE Vauxhall Engine (complete) 140 kg 24th Jan 2008
Quite a bit in weight difference then! Only thing that bothers me in an XE is that you'll struggle to outdo a Saxo VTS! 
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jr
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ah, but thats RWD and thereford not gay
i personally would tune the 1.6, from expiriance, and then, if you sell, its eay to take bits off etc
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Robin
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2.3 Duratec is 3kg more than an X16XE
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16V_1600
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quote:
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ah, but thats RWD and thereford not gay
i personally would tune the 1.6, from expiriance, and then, if you sell, its eay to take bits off etc
but then again, I would imagine with the corsa weighing less than a pea, a LET would induce muuuuuuucho wheel spin 
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jr
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yes, which is bad, then you need a diff, and alot of other things as well for the conversion
1600 is a good engine, and newer
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Robin
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Not if you don't mash your foot into the carpet all the time......
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16V_1600
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My 1.6 seems fairly nippy and it's got all the interior in so I guess semi stripped and some tuneage it should be pretty sweet.
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16V_1600
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So where would say £1500 - £2000 get me with my 1.6?
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Robin
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Cams, verniers, inlet, remap, exhaust, headwork.
150bhp or so, depending on the inlet.
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dhdev
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For that money he could have throttle bodies and exhaust surely? That'd give him 150bhp and sound amezzin
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