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TheCam
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Registered: 16th Mar 07
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11th Dec 07 at 12:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm 18, Im a 3rd year apprentice partsman for a large company.

my wages have been:
1st year 5200 before tax £2.50 an hour
2nd year 7280 before tax £3.50 an hour
3rd year 11960 before tax £5.00 an hour

I used work beside 2 other partsmen and a parts manager but about 8 weeks ago I got a promotion and now I work at our other branch and I run my own parts dept. while I enjoy it there is a hell of a lot more work and more managerial tasks to be done. when I moved up here I didnt get a payrise

my other point is that I started here in Aug '05 and it was supposed to be a 4 year apprenticeship but I am doing my final tests on friday to qualify early.

I'm going to be asking for a wage rise next week once I'v qualified. my question is how much should I be asking???

Cheers
Dan Lewis
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Registered: 31st Jan 05
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11th Dec 07 at 12:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hours do you do?

but imo if your running your own department at least 20k
deano87
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Registered: 21st Oct 06
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11th Dec 07 at 12:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ask for a rise when you pass your exams.

But the minimum wage for 18- 21 year olds is less than £5.00/hour, so think yourself lucky
TheCam
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11th Dec 07 at 12:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

monday - friday 8 - 5, half an hour lunch
saturday - 8 - 12, no lunch.

I doubt I'll ever see 20k in this job tbh even though its a hell of a lot of work to keep the dept going smoothly.

Deano, iv been through the shit wage I feel its time to get a bit of a reward for my work.
also, Im goni wait til I pass the exams so I have, hopefully more to bargain with

[Edited on 11-12-2007 by TheCam]
deano87
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11th Dec 07 at 12:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

There is no harm in asking, just don't be too pushy. If the exams you're doing are industry recognised, start looking for new jobs may be?!
TheCam
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11th Dec 07 at 12:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

exactly mate, there are 2 levels you can do to be a parts man, NVQ level 2 and 3. 3 being the best, thats what qualification I will have come friday

not saying this to be big headed but I'm shit hot at my job and a lot of garages know that so if they (bosses) dont wanna up my wages then I may try and find another job.

[Edited on 11-12-2007 by TheCam]
deano87
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11th Dec 07 at 12:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Fair play. If you're that good (and by the sounds of it you are, because you're running your own department and not even qualified) then you should be able to get another job somewhere.
ShEp
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11th Dec 07 at 12:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

thats nothing bud

i was a vuaxhall apprentice

1st yer was, £3.00 p/h
2nd year was £3.00 p/h
argued for 6months and got a wage rise as legally they werent paying me enough so
3rd year £4.45 p/h


got fully trained to silver award within the vauxhall aprentiship system.

no wage rise, got told after 1 years expierience in the workshop ontop of the 3 1/2 years i'd already done, i'd be offered £5.00 p/h

I walked, No way is a gold status mechanic only worth £5.00 p/h which is what i would of been had i stayed for that last year
TheCam
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11th Dec 07 at 12:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I think my work may grudge giving me a payrise and a cant be arsed finding a new job but if they do what your company done I'll be walking as well
deano87
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11th Dec 07 at 12:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

This is how the majority of these car manufacturers, and 'franchise' dealerships make money. They charge £50+/hour for even the most basic jobs (like an interim oil change) yet get apprentice mechanics to do it, on £5/hour.
TheCam
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11th Dec 07 at 12:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

exactly, its £55 ph where I work, doubt any of you from ingerland will have heard of my work, scottish peeps hopefully will have though lol

http://www.parks.uk.com
Brett
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11th Dec 07 at 12:33   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I was on £2.70 when I was an apprentice
SetH
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11th Dec 07 at 12:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Id rather suck cock for £5 an hour then do that. no wonder a lot of young people choose not to work and fleece the benefit system.
TheCam
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11th Dec 07 at 13:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

exactly
AndyKent
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11th Dec 07 at 13:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by ShEp
thats nothing bud

i was a vuaxhall apprentice

1st yer was, £3.00 p/h
2nd year was £3.00 p/h
argued for 6months and got a wage rise as legally they werent paying me enough so
3rd year £4.45 p/h


got fully trained to silver award within the vauxhall aprentiship system.

no wage rise, got told after 1 years expierience in the workshop ontop of the 3 1/2 years i'd already done, i'd be offered £5.00 p/h

I walked, No way is a gold status mechanic only worth £5.00 p/h which is what i would of been had i stayed for that last year


So what are you doing now then?
JM_16v
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11th Dec 07 at 13:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you lot are in the wrong industry
TheCam
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Deano_sxi
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11th Dec 07 at 15:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my mate finished his training in 3 years but they wont up his pay as its a 4 year apprenticeship so hes doing more work for the same pay until his 4 years are up, theres nothing he can do.
TheCam
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11th Dec 07 at 15:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

al be walking if that happens because legally I'll be fully qualified and another company wouldn't care that i finished early.
Paul_J
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11th Dec 07 at 15:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

can't believe how little they pay you.. considering the amount most garages charge!

was £50 p/hour when i put my car into a garage recently, bet the guy who did the work got no where near that!
Colin
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11th Dec 07 at 15:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Parts guys genarally get paid peanuts. Id be looking to move into something else....your still young bud the worlds your oyster
TheCam
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11th Dec 07 at 16:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Parts is a shit shit job lol your right, I wanna do my HGV but cant do that til I'm 21 so I'll just stick it out for a few years

as you say though, partsmen are peanuts, hopefully they'l appreciate the work I do and give me a decent wage.
Deano_sxi
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11th Dec 07 at 16:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by TheCam
al be walking if that happens because legally I'll be fully qualified and another company wouldn't care that i finished early.


they wont honor your qualifcation until the full 4 years is up
TheCam
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11th Dec 07 at 16:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

see I thought this and asked my college lecturer and he said once I'v got the certificate i can leave if I want because the qualification is coming from an independant body
Deano_sxi
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11th Dec 07 at 16:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just what i heard off my mate that works for vauxhall

i wouldnt leave you have 3 years with the place, its only 1 more year and youll know the people and how everything works now, not worth going elsewhere

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