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Dave A
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what would you expect to pay for a remap on your car, inc before and after RR graphs?

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Define what you mean by a re-map though.
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Using a base map or live mapping dave?
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red dot do one for the punto at £200 with an after dyno

Id pay £250 from you
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3rd Dec 07 at 20:43   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

£350-400 regardless of the method.
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I paid £475 inc vat.

Jamsport - Chipwizards standard ECU remap.

Went from 141 bhp, to 160 bhp with cams + remap.
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
£350-400 regardless of the method.


yeah
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
I paid £475 inc vat.

Jamsport - Chipwizards standard ECU remap.

Went from 141 bhp, to 160 bhp with cams + remap.


did they fit the cams at the time? was that inckuded in the price?
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I paid £380+VAT for mine and I went from 150bhp to 190bhp with just a remap the rest of the engine is bog standard

The place I got my remap is having a sale just now with 30% off all custom code Phs1 maps

[Edited on 03-12-2007 by big eck]
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
I paid £475 inc vat.

Jamsport - Chipwizards standard ECU remap.

Went from 141 bhp, to 160 bhp with cams + remap.


did they fit the cams at the time? was that inckuded in the price?


nope.

I paid £350 for cams, got my mate to fit them for £100 (inc changing cam belt and water pump, and tensioners etc) ...

Then drove it to jamsport with it running rough as fuck, and Wayne from Chipwizards mapped my car on their rollers for £475.

Took a few hours.

He said 'What bhp are you looking for?'

I said '160' ... he disapeared off, I heard the car revving up and down a few times on the dyno and then he came back and handed me a graph '160 bhp @ 7200 rpm'

I swear he got his ruler and pens out and drew it by hand.
Dave A
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remaps will be using a base map (generic map i.e same for all cars of that model) then that map is tweeked on the dyno.

so in effect it is a live remap as it can be altered to suit modifications to a certain extent, cams, inlet and exhaust mods etc... but not as far as mapping to suit a turbo conversion.
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quote:
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I swear he got his ruler and pens out and drew it by hand.


Might have seemed like that, but he wouldn't risk his reputation I don't think, he'd lose too much money elsewhere if he did that and someone found out.

You should have said 200bhp anyway
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3rd Dec 07 at 21:08   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

£300 +
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For me to come to you, you'd need to undercut the likes of Dastek, Star, Revo etc as there closer & have very good reputations at mapping PD diesel's.
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£98 on ebay,
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3rd Dec 07 at 23:22   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

300 max.
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For a generic map I'd say 250 tops as its just a 5 min job to upload, plus half the gernic maps are base maps which half the time only beenefit cars with the sugested modicications.

Live map well over £500 easy.
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£350 or so.
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for a generic remap we charge 299 for na then 499, or 599 depending for turbo's, were a superchip dealer, for dreamscience on the fords and soon vauxhalls, is 399 for some and 499 for others, its the cost of equipment thats so stupid and manufactures giving rrp's that mean we dont make any money on it!

for a custom remap we charge £100/hour +vat a full remap is £450+vat

were not the cheapest, and nt the most expencive.

as for wayne using our rolling road, hes not been here for ages now, but i believe him to be one of the most, if not the most, tallented mappers out there, working with him is amazing to watch, very clever man!

he did my corsa when it was a 1.6 with lexmaul

pay for what you get really!


[Edited on 04-12-2007 by broster]
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Id be loking to pay around the £300 mark when the ibiza arrives
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quote:
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Id be loking to pay around the £300 mark when the ibiza arrives


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quote:
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pay for what you get really!




Pretty much true with any modified part really.....

Cut corners, go cheap, get a fat sweaty ripped t-shirt guy, last nights pie stains on his top, scratching his balls while he plugs 2 cables onto your car "guv"

Or pay out, go to somewhere with some history, and some motor-sport involvement, fork out, get a brilliant map all the way up the revs...
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quote:
Originally posted by Fad
For a generic map I'd say 250 tops as its just a 5 min job to upload, plus half the gernic maps are base maps which half the time only beenefit cars with the sugested modicications.
Even a generic map will need to have been programmed though and whoever learnt this trade generally will be asking for a few hundred quid per map wholesale.

A lot of them can't be re-used because of the immobiliser, ECU revisions etc. so its not like you would spend £200 once and sell them for £300 a pop and it be pure profit.

Plus there is liability if you kill an ECU. My friend who is in the business spends a lot of time helping out other tuners who have cooked stuff and you would be surprised at some of the big names who actually do get it wrong.
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people dont realise the costs involved, with modern ecu's being so technical its not just a case of pulling a chip out and plugging it in like the eds stuff, tuners need to spend £10,000's to tune just one car sometimes! its not a cheap business!
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most of what you pay is r & d

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