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willay

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1st Oct 07 at 06:07

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7019490.stm

this is going to cause so much trouble with little shits trying to get cigs, I think its a good idea personally.

No doubt there will be a large portion of under 18 year olds still able to get them over the counter but whatever measures that are put in place to stop people from purchasing/trying cigs is an excellent step forward imo.

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GTS-T Rob

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1st Oct 07 at 06:14

i dont smoke, but...

what about the 16/17 year olds that did when it was legal?

willay

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1st Oct 07 at 06:16

doesn't matter, if you are under 18 as of today you shouldn't be sold smoking materials.

Matt H

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1st Oct 07 at 06:26

Good news

taylorboosh

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1st Oct 07 at 06:27

i dont smoke but that is unfair imo, and kids dont buy tabs from shops, they buy them from "the lady a few doors down whos just been to spain"

Neo

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1st Oct 07 at 06:52

Yeah definately good, however i'm sure parents etc will still buy there kids fags.

TBF this angers me, because will live in a such a nanny cultured state and were loosing sooo much freedom.

Its similar to the "under 21" thing in clubs now. I turned 18 this year, however 90% of place i go turn you away if your not 21 whether you have ID or not.

shitty morning

j10E W

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1st Oct 07 at 07:06

very good hate smoking its disgusting

pow

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1st Oct 07 at 07:19

I dont agree actually.

If kids want cigs they are going to get them, what about the 16 and 17 y/o's that smoked before?

This is justmaking more work for shopkeapers and coppers.

willay

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1st Oct 07 at 07:22

they are grouping it up with buying booze, both drinking and smoking excessively can lead to death. Even if it does make more work for shop keepers, thats their job isnt it?

[Edited on 01-10-2007 by willay]

Steve

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1st Oct 07 at 07:26

lolz

deano87

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1st Oct 07 at 07:53

I like the idea. Only have to remember 1 date when IDing people

andy1868

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1st Oct 07 at 07:56

meh, live and let live i say. the only thing that'll annoy me is if they change the drinking age to 21, if so i may have to bring down the government in a bloody revolution

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1st Oct 07 at 07:58

i agree with it personally, although people are still going to be able to get them

it will cause a lot of hassle to shop keepers selling cigs to people who are 16/17 though with them kicking up a fuss

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1st Oct 07 at 08:08

I'm glad I don't work in an off licence any more

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1st Oct 07 at 08:10

quote:
Originally posted by pow
I dont agree actually.

If kids want cigs they are going to get them, what about the 16 and 17 y/o's that smoked before?

This is justmaking more work for shopkeapers and coppers.

How is it making more work for shop keepers? All shops operate a challenge 21 policy so any young person gets ID'd these days, it makes less work really because you only have to remember one date now...

nova_gteuk

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1st Oct 07 at 08:10

I started smoking when i was 14 and buying them myself at age 14,so upping the age limit wont really make much diffrence to be honest.

Ive given up now though.

And me and my mates started going clubbing in swansea at age 15

i had the good fortune of being 6ft3 at age 15 so never got id'd for anything,so i cant see how upping the age limit to 18 will make much diffrence at all.

You can have sex at 16,ride a 50cc motorbike at 16..but not smoke? makes sense

[Edited on 01-10-2007 by nova_gteuk]

deano87

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1st Oct 07 at 08:14

quote:
Originally posted by ed

quote:
Originally posted by pow
I dont agree actually.

If kids want cigs they are going to get them, what about the 16 and 17 y/o's that smoked before?

This is justmaking more work for shopkeapers and coppers.
How is it making more work for shop keepers? All shops operate a challenge 21 policy so any young person gets ID'd these days, it makes less work really because you only have to remember one date now...

But if you have regulars near a school, like we do where I work, you don't ID. Now it will just be a ball ache.

[Edited on 01-10-2007 by deano87]

willay

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1st Oct 07 at 08:19

just do your job deano

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1st Oct 07 at 08:21

the bargain booze in ormskirk wouldn't seel cigs to kids in uniform, regardless of whether they could prove they were 16 or not, deano

taylorboosh

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1st Oct 07 at 08:22

each to their own i say, they go outside now, what more do you expect?

deano87

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1st Oct 07 at 08:22

quote:
Originally posted by andy1868
the bargain booze in ormskirk wouldn't seel cigs to kids in uniform, regardless of whether they could prove they were 16 or not, deano

Fair enough. If I've ID'd one before, and they come in to buy cigarettes, I'm not going to ID them again.

Now we have to, and yes, I will do my job. Don't fancy a £2k on the spot fine or what ever it is.

I just hope they don't vandalise my car

andy1868

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1st Oct 07 at 08:23

if they do deano, vandalise their faces

SetH

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1st Oct 07 at 09:34

agree with willay.

anything to reign in the little cunt chav population of this piss ant god forsaken shit hole of a country.

Ian

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1st Oct 07 at 11:14

Good idea which actually makes it easier for shopkeepers - its easier to prove being 18 than 16.

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1st Oct 07 at 11:39

quote:
Originally posted by nova_gteuk
You can have sex at 16,ride a 50cc motorbike at 16..but not smoke? makes sense

[Edited on 01-10-2007 by nova_gteuk]

interesting point. wont be long before you have to be 21 to drive anyway

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