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Author got a disciplinary this morning...
TheCam
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Registered: 16th Mar 07
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27th Jul 07 at 08:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

let me set the scene, I work in a garage as a parts man.
my car needs new disks, pads, 2 cv boots and a caliper so I asked my service manager about a week and a half ago if I could put my car on the ramp 1 day this week after work so i can do the work there instead of on the ground, he said yeah.
when i went to ask him on monday there if Thursday would be alright as 1 of the technicians are doing there own car he told me i wasnt gettin to put my car on the ramp. I questioned this as i have had my car on the ramp severaly times before he just started bein a dick so we were arguing and i just told him to shove it up his arse and walked away. my manager then had a bit of a go at me for it and we ended up arguing.
So now i have a disciplinary meeting with the 2 managers i was arguing with and a guy from HR in 1 hour!!!

I've had a few warnings in the past but never formal warnings.
anyways what do you think will happen? am i lookin at job cantre on monday ?? lol
Kellye
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27th Jul 07 at 08:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You will probably get a written warning as they may include your last warnings as verbal.
Dave A
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27th Jul 07 at 08:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If I said NO to my mechanics/staff about using the ramps and they argued back I wouldnt be too happy either.

explain the situation, be appologetic and dont argue. you should be fine.
TheCam
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27th Jul 07 at 09:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
If I said NO to my mechanics/staff about using the ramps and they argued back I wouldnt be too happy either.

Dave that would be fine but he said yes to me the previous week and also I have been on the ramps lots of times so surely I should never be allowed on or always not just when it suits him... it just annoys me so much
Seany
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Registered: 13th Dec 06
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27th Jul 07 at 09:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

and to think i thought you were well behaved when i met you,
nah mate youll be fine just say that u had alot on your mind an you lost it as it all built up
Dave A
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27th Jul 07 at 09:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by cam1
quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
If I said NO to my mechanics/staff about using the ramps and they argued back I wouldnt be too happy either.

Dave that would be fine but he said yes to me the previous week and also I have been on the ramps lots of times so surely I should never be allowed on or always not just when it suits him... it just annoys me so much




your boss said no. thats all that matters, what has gone on before is irrelevant.

TheCam
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27th Jul 07 at 09:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

back on topic - what do you think will happen ?
Seany
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27th Jul 07 at 09:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

written warning probably
TheCam
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27th Jul 07 at 09:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hope its something like that. I am looking for a new job anyway but dont wanna be left without a job in the mean time.
Ant
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27th Jul 07 at 09:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sounds like things are not being done right to me, you need 24 hours written notice, offered a right to representation and there is no way on earth the 2 managers should be involved.
Schlumpfy
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27th Jul 07 at 09:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

This has happened to me, i could use work ramps before but now the gaffer has decided he doesn't want anyone using them.. fair enough really as he is the boss.
Cam just face the music bud. It's too petty a thing to lose a job on.
TheCam
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27th Jul 07 at 09:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ant
sounds like things are not being done right to me, you need 24 hours written notice, offered a right to representation and there is no way on earth the 2 managers should be involved.

I thought this too. I am just gonni go in and nod! yes sir no sir 3 bags full sir
Fee
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27th Jul 07 at 09:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

did he give a reason why you couldnt use them?
Dave A
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27th Jul 07 at 09:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

maybe because he is parts store staff and not qualified to use them, probably not had any formal training to use them?
TheCam
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27th Jul 07 at 09:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

He has let me on them before so i dont see how it has changed. maybe he didnt get his hole the nite before.
AdZ9
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27th Jul 07 at 11:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ever thought his manager could of asked him to stop people going on it and he got in the shit for letting you use it before? so this time he cant allow you to?
Ian
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27th Jul 07 at 11:20   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I think you should consider yourself lucky that you used them before and put up with being told no this time.

Probably the only thing that has changed your bosses opinion on whether you should have that privilege, which if you're arguing would be no.

You have to remember, if anything goes wrong, your bosses will get in trouble as well as you for letting you do it. If someone injured, stuff is damaged etc. you'll probably find that insurance policies etc. would not cover this type of thing.
TheCam
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27th Jul 07 at 12:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah I know. anyway ive had my disciplinary and got a final written warning
Craig W
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27th Jul 07 at 12:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Final written? That's a bit harsh, especially as you say you've never had any formal warning in the past.
It's usually a verbal, written, and then final written. Sounds like they want you out TBH.
Kellye
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27th Jul 07 at 12:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Like you said Cam, your looking for a new job. Atleast you still have this one whilst looking.
Kurt
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27th Jul 07 at 12:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i work in parts and im mates with a lad here so get him to help me do odd bits, dont think your insured to use it on your own though
TheCam
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27th Jul 07 at 12:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Rallye106
Like you said Cam, your looking for a new job. Atleast you still have this one whilst looking.

thats exactly my thoughts.

Kurt - I wouldnt have thought i was insured either, i wasnt arguin with the fact he said no really its just the way he done it tbh

Craig - According to them and my contract that waws a sackable offense so Im chuffed and I'l just keep my head down til I get a new job
Craig W
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27th Jul 07 at 12:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What was a sackable offence? Arguing with your manager or using the ramps?
TheCam
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27th Jul 07 at 12:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Telling him to shove it up your arse
Craig W
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