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Butler

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2nd Jan 07 at 15:05

I watched this film last night, it was good I thought. They seemed to big up the americans alot though, we didnt even get a mention which I thought was a shame. So where were we during D-day?

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2nd Jan 07 at 15:09

Typical yanks.

AuroraSport

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2nd Jan 07 at 15:15

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Normandy#British_sector_.28Second_Army.29

MatthewR

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2nd Jan 07 at 15:15

they do it with every way film - particular the ones at sea!

Aaron

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2nd Jan 07 at 15:17

i think it was mostly Americans and Canadians (sp) sent to Omaha Beach. The brits were at other landing points along Normandy which were less fortified and we suffered less deaths.

I watched a documentry on the History channel on Sky the other day about the d day invation..interesting but sad watch

Ojc

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2nd Jan 07 at 15:26

Its about as historically correct as David Irving. Look him up.

Ojc

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2nd Jan 07 at 15:28

quote:
Originally posted by Aj.
i think it was mostly Americans and Canadians (sp) sent to Omaha Beach. The brits were at other landing points along Normandy which were less fortified and we suffered less deaths.

I watched a documentry on the History channel on Sky the other day about the d day invation..interesting but sad watch

No Canadians on Omaha.

Ojc

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2nd Jan 07 at 15:40

The reason there was a blood bath on Omaha was because in the first wave the DD tanks which were supposed to be supporting the troops all sank, the troops had no cover when they got to the beach.

In SPR the bunkers are totally different to what the actual ones on Omaha looked like.

Aaron

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2nd Jan 07 at 15:42

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
The reason there was a blood bath on Omaha was because in the first wave the DD tanks which were supposed to be supporting the troops all sank, the troops had no cover when they got to the beach.

Yeah thats right, i think they were something like 22 tanks sank with the crew in them...horrible

stuartmitchell

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2nd Jan 07 at 15:51

What beach did the Canadians hit? Juno?

Anyway, the war veterans that went to see the film said it beared a scary resemblance to actual events.

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2nd Jan 07 at 15:51

Ontop of the tanks sinking due to their error of releasing them too far out to sea...

The naby were supposed to bombard the beach with shells to give the poor fuckers some cover by creating holes and craters for the troops to avoid machine gun fire....
They missed and shelled the sea.

So it was a bloodbath because the yanks as per usual cocked it up BIG time.

[Edited on 02-01-2007 by Jambo]

Ojc

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2nd Jan 07 at 15:52

Yeah the actual fighting scenes were very true to what happened, anything after the opening scenes on the beach are totally inaccurate.

Troop movements and the position of the German SS Panzer troops is well well well out.

Butler

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2nd Jan 07 at 16:19

It should have said somewhere in the opening sequence that alot of the film doesnt reflect real life events

Ojc

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2nd Jan 07 at 16:22

The landing was accurate even though the bunker types weren't the story and the position of German troops etc was totally fcuked up and wrong.

If the Germans had, had what was a SS Panzer division in that position at that time they would have drove the Americans back into the sea no problem.

Butler

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2nd Jan 07 at 16:28

OJC do you like the film?

Aaron

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2nd Jan 07 at 16:28

In the Documentary on Sky it said the Germans tanks were there and ready to be used...but because Hitler was asleep and no one dare wake him they couldnt be put into the battle.

He said that no tanks were to be put into combat without him saying so. Great leadership

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2nd Jan 07 at 16:37

ive heard that somewhere before Aj. isn't that the reason that the germans didn't hold the american's back?

Aaron

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2nd Jan 07 at 16:41

yeah..as Ojc rightly said..the Germans could have ran the Allies back in to the sea if they used their tanks

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2nd Jan 07 at 17:59

Tom Hanks didn't actually fight in WWII either, it was some other americans!

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2nd Jan 07 at 18:15

quote:
Originally posted by Butler
OJC do you like the film?

Only the opening 5 mins watching that MG42 tear the Americans to pieces.

After that, no.

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2nd Jan 07 at 18:46

all i have to say is a letter and 3 numbers: U571, according to the film the americans captured the German U-Boat and captured the enigma which later led to german messages being decoded and helped win the war. in actual fact it was the British, go figure.

don't even get me started on Black Hawk Down

however i liked SPR tbh

[Edited on 02-01-2007 by andy1868]

Ojc

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2nd Jan 07 at 18:52

The bollocks about Tom Cruise playing an American pilot in the BoB was also planned, I suppose the Americans won that as well, 2 years before they actually bothered to turn up to the war.

Jas

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2nd Jan 07 at 19:57

Have I started war film talk?

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3rd Jan 07 at 23:30

James, watch the whole of 'The World at War' mate.

That will give you a better insight into the truth of much of what happened during the war.

Butler

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3rd Jan 07 at 23:30

Will do a search on that cheers Jim. PS Check out my Ford related threads, you might like.

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