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deano87
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2nd Nov 06 at 09:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I guess the 'R' could stand for racing, 'S' for sport or something.

I always thought the VTS one was faster, yet I've seen loads of standard ones around with trims, not alloys.

Just wondered what the difference was really?! There is a mug my girlfriend knows, got his Saxo interior leathered, cost him over £2k. Saw an advert in BMW mag for putting leather in E46 at £1.5k I believe.
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VTR is 8v - VTS is 16v i fink.
VTR is 95-98bhp i fink - VTS is 120bhp.

[Edited on 02-11-2006 by P1CK4D]
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VTR - 8v
VTS - 16v

Neither had wheeltrims, the Furio and Westcoast has same bodykit as VTR/VTS but has wheeltrims.
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erm.

VTR = 1.6 8v around 90 bhp. 0-60 in 10's

VTS = 1.6 16v around 120 bhp 0-60 in 7.5

VTS = faster car. VTS also won't have 'wheel trims' on, it comes standard with VTS alloys.

If you see a saxo with wheel trims, it could either be, a furio, a westcoast, a kitted standard one, or a really cheapo VTR.

Furio + Westcoast = 1.4 8v.
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These are VTS wheels - as modelled by my car



they are standard on Saxo VTS's.
deano87
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This definitely said VTS where it normally said VTR but had trims - never mind lol I've also seen VTS' with VTR alloys.
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Will a VTR beat a Corsa GSi?
Marc
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Furios etc have VTR badges on the doors.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamie Walby
Will a VTR beat a Corsa GSi?

Open, Worms, Can.
ClaireF
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2nd Nov 06 at 10:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

vts faster isnt it
Rob126
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maybe he's having his wheels refurb or something and got steelies on!
MatthewR
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or black wheels which look like steelies - like what i have
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quote:
Originally posted by ClaireF
vts faster isnt it


Than a corsa 1.6?
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Or maybe, people have re-badged their cars?

Furio and Westcoasts, don't normally have VTR on the side. They have Westcoast etc.
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or VTS owners put furio badges on for a laugh *ahem
LeeM
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early vts's had the same wheels as vtr's as well(it was mentioned up above) ive seen a "vts" before that had wheel trims and base model interior
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
Or maybe, people have re-badged their cars?

Furio and Westcoasts, don't normally have VTR on the side. They have Westcoast etc.

Quite a lot did have them though, I asked my mate who used to work at Citroen and he said they came like that. I've seen loads with the Westcoast badges though. Was there a Eastcoast model too?
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
Or maybe, people have re-badged their cars?

Furio and Westcoasts, don't normally have VTR on the side. They have Westcoast etc.

Quite a lot did have them though, I asked my mate who used to work at Citroen and he said they came like that. I've seen loads with the Westcoast badges though. Was there a Eastcoast model too?


I've seen a few Furio's with VTR badges. If it has rear discs (if you can see that) then it is a genuine VTR/VTS unless some mug has had a conversion on a 1.4 8v.
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didnt they do a later model vts with 130 bhp as well???
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Wasn't that a few early 106's?
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quote:
Originally posted by corsaflip
didnt they do a later model vts with 130 bhp as well???


I'm sure I read about that somewhere that they had a special airfilter or something?
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Nar it was the later vts, I thought they did made them there rare though

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Citroen_Saxo_1_6i_VTS__Review_5368614
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They were standard on early vtr's and vts'

The ones PaulJ has shown are later wheels.

Westcoats and furios usually have either saxo or a little American flag with westcoat written on it just next to the side repeaters.
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FURIOS are MK2 westcoast are Mk1. Furios have a small SAXO badhe on teh side as opposed to the american westcoast one
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quote:
Originally posted by MatthewR
FURIOS are MK2 westcoast are Mk1. Furios have a small SAXO badhe on teh side as opposed to the american westcoast one


Kind of what i was trying to say

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