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SteveW
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24th Oct 06 at 14:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Right heres me problem..

Started work for this ASM company (doing helpdesk support) but after a just over a month of this i have found that i really dont like it.. However the pay is rather nice @ £24k BUT its 24/7 support so we dont get any time off apart from booked holiday, which is 20days a year. (so no time off over Xmas and New Year)

now i can go to work for the company i was temping at BKL. which i enjoyed and they do have a proper holiday over the Xmas period. Its more Desktop Support with a little networking involved too..

HOWEVER.. the pay is a lot lower with the chance after a few months to go up a bit then after a year go up to what im on now.

Starting pay of 18-19k to then go up to 20-21k after a 3 month training period. Then staying on £20k for a long while then going up to £24k



Now i can learn a lot more of the server and network side of things at BKL.. and i cant do this at ASM.

What would you do ?? Cos i like money but i also dont want to not like the job im in

Patrick
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24th Oct 06 at 14:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Tough doing a job you don't enjoy but £6k is one hell of a pay drop!
Jules
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24th Oct 06 at 14:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If you can afford to get by on the lower wages at BKL for upto a year (if the payrise is guarenteed) then go for that as it sounds like you'd prefer that job and it has better long term prospects.
SteveW
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24th Oct 06 at 14:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i know.

but day to day i just get bored here

6k is lots of dosh
Cosmo
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24th Oct 06 at 15:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its only a year on the lower money then?

If so take the other job you temped at. You'll enjoy it more, and you'll get that extra training you mentioned. Its def the better job for the future
SteveW
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24th Oct 06 at 15:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

oh it will go up to this pay for sure.. they have confirmed that..
Cosmo
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24th Oct 06 at 15:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

take it then.

You'll only get fed up of the other job and quit sometime in the future, so better to move now and take the less pay this year than in the future.
SteveW
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24th Oct 06 at 15:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hmmmm you do seem to speak sence
Cosmo
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24th Oct 06 at 15:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by SteveW
hmmmm you do seem to speak sence


that has been known to occassionally happen yes!
ed
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24th Oct 06 at 15:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I would do something you will gain experience in for a few years. Especially if it's a better enviroment to work in. Take the lower packet for a while then move onto bigger and better things...
SteveW
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24th Oct 06 at 15:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i need to have a look through my contact with ASM..

Im sure there is a timeframe to work when handing in a notice
Cosmo
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24th Oct 06 at 15:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by SteveW
i need to have a look through my contact with ASM..

Im sure there is a timeframe to work when handing in a notice


should be less during your trial period there, which I persume your still on?
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24th Oct 06 at 15:13   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i'd say move, no point staying if your unhappy, particulary as you have a beetter offer (on the haooy scale) elsewhere yes its a pay drop but not having holidays....i'd want to move
SteveW
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24th Oct 06 at 15:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah thats true.. got a 3month trial here..

seems that people dont last too long here. they have had 3 new peeps start and they all left within the first 3 weeks..

Jamie Walby
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24th Oct 06 at 15:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Id rather do a job I enjoyed for less than a job i hated for more.

Long term seems better to go for the lower paid job Steve.
SteveW
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24th Oct 06 at 15:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

would have to put getting a new car on hold as i would need all the pennies i could save really..

sucks.. just got used to having a bit of spare cash around..

got the phonecall from the other company about 20mins ago.. so its got me thinkin.
will also have a chat with my mummy tonight
Daimo B
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24th Oct 06 at 15:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Our heldesk peopel are on like £26k if your interested....

8-8, but 1 week every 9 is on call (you get paid an allowence on top of wages, plus a rate).....

Xmas is just on-call cover, luck of the draw who gets it..

Currently full of contractors while im seconded onto a new project role, but if they think im going back........

Failing that, get on Jobserve, got all my roles on there.

[Edited on 24-10-2006 by VXR]

Edit - Helpdesk as in 1st line and 2nd line. 1 week on the phone, next week on walkabout, next on the phone, next on walkabout etc.

Will be more jobs available as we rollout our worldwide project as well..

[Edited on 24-10-2006 by VXR]
SteveW
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24th Oct 06 at 15:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

where you based tho ??

Cos i live in Uxbridge and couldnt hack going all the way round M25 each day or something crazy like that..

is that all just over the phone support tho ?? Cos i much prefer desktop support
Colin
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24th Oct 06 at 15:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Bit less money for a year to be happier & get further....Id say do it!! Im earning NO MONEY this year trying to get where I want to be!
Daimo B
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24th Oct 06 at 15:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Desktop support (2nd line).
Phone Support (1st line).

Central City of London (City district, Tower 42, Gurkin, St Pauls, area (well Moorgate)).

Not drivable unless you have a bike

I.e your on 2nd line one week, 1st line the following week, then back on 2nd line, then back on 1st etc etc... But chance to progress on which is what i've done.




[Edited on 24-10-2006 by VXR]
SteveW
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24th Oct 06 at 15:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sounds pretty good..

can you u2u me contacts, what qualifications your looking for and all the usual toot
Daimo B
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24th Oct 06 at 15:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Sent
Rob H
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24th Oct 06 at 16:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Works out to roughly £330 a month difference after tax... What do you currently do with the £330? Can you live without it?

Have you had an interview yet? Maybe you could haggle your salary if they offer you the job?
SteveW
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24th Oct 06 at 16:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

dont think i can haggle with the starting pay.. but the £330

just really spend it on going out drinking
Rob H
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24th Oct 06 at 16:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Remeber that's only for 3 months though, then it goes down to £250 (20k), or £180 (21k). Personally, job satisfaction, and knowing your hours are 9-5, are much more important than a couple of huindred quid a month!

Figures are from http://www.i-resign.com/uk/financialcentre/tax_calculator.asp BTW!

[Edited on 24-10-2006 by Rob H]

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