BeArDy
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Here are a few pictures of my mates Saxos.
one is R1 powered (roof chop) and the other is hayabusa powered (still finishing off)
The R1 Saxo will do 0-60 in around 4, and maybe even high 3's in the right conditions and right gear change's.
We would like to take the car to a Saxo or some other shake down day to get some stats and show people what the cars can do.
Feel free to look at are Saxo on the web site (being updated at the moment)
http://www.jmaautomotive.co.uk/
http://www.jmaconversions.co.uk/
I will add my mate owns JMA and this is not just a kit for Saxos they can convert any small hatch Cars (Corsa, Saxos, 106 etc etc)
We are doing a track day on the Tue 23rd May at Oulton Park everyone is welcome to come and see that car and take a ride to see how the car will perform and handle, i am sure it will suprise alot of people 
(before people say anything the car is not ZCars)
P.S Corsa Vs Saxo Day 
[Edited on 22-04-2006 by BeArDy]
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ed
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I really want to do a bike engine conversion to a car sone day. I just don't have to tools to do it 
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ajscorsa
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how much would something like that cost :O
looks sweet, how do they find traction on a car like that?
[Edited on 22-04-2006 by ajscorsa]
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BeArDy
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traction is outstanding and handle really well around the track. just look at the 0-60 times.
we took the saxo to total Kit car show and took it on the track plus taking people out for a ride, and it suprised alot of people
as for cost, well every build is differant, but i would say not much more that a LET conversion.........
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ed
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Traction? Rear wheel drive - under acceleration all the weight of the car goes back and pushes the wheels into the ground. Theoretically.
Most kits I have seen like these cost around £5k. Most people say a ball park price for a conversion is around £10k. Though I think it could be done for much less than that.
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ajscorsa
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bike engine in a corsa been done yet??
how would it perform against a corsa let??
was gonna use my corsa as a second car and buy a mk4 astra GSi in november but id rather invest in a bike engine lol
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psycho sport
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are these road legal?!
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BeArDy
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
Traction? Rear wheel drive - under acceleration all the weight of the car goes back and pushes the wheels into the ground. Theoretically.
Most kits I have seen like these cost around £5k. Most people say a ball park price for a conversion is around £10k. Though I think it could be done for much less than that.
i total agree mate but again its all down to peoples specs.
as for against a LET Corsa, well i have been on the saxo and a number of LET corsa and can say the Saxo is quicker and plus the added it will handle on a track 
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ed
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Though one thing people seem to keep on forgetting to do with a bike engine conversion... CVT (Constant Variable Transmission)...
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BeArDy
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quote:
Originally posted by psycho sport
are these road legal?!
both are fully road legal.
you may notice the R1 Saxo is on a Q Plate BUT the only reason for this is the roof chop. The Hayabuse is MOT'ed and runs a standard plate.
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ed
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quote:
Originally posted by psycho sport
are these road legal?!
You put them on a Q plate like a kit car  So they need to be SVA'd as far as I know...
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BeArDy
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I will also say both cars could be used everday there not just toys
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psycho sport
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Tempting alternative for my golf mk1 project!
how much power do the hybusa turbo engines produce?
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Robin
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not keen on the roofchop, but the idea is a good one
would be better in something lighter, like a mini though
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ajscorsa
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hyabusa turbo in the back of a corsa would be amazing. i sooooooooo wanna do it lol.
doubt i could insure it for road use tho.
how would they be as an everday car? how reliable are bike engines too?
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Ry_B
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Eh...
They're only 1 litres aren't they?
Why not just stick a LET in, bet it's cheaper and more reliable. Probably quicker aswell....?
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BeArDy
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quote:
Originally posted by psycho sport
Tempting alternative for my golf mk1 project!
how much power do the hybusa turbo engines produce?
how bigs your wallet 
i have seen 500bhp Busa Turbos.
BUT i will say just go in one of the saxo and 99% of people would be happy with the power then provide and give on the road.
as i have put we are doing a track day, people are welcome to come and take a ride.
i will be taking pictures and video'in the saxo all day, so will be online aswell.....
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Robin
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Busa lump is 1300 Rcb
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BeArDy
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quote:
Originally posted by Rcb
Eh...
They're only 1 litres aren't they?
Why not just stick a LET in, bet it's cheaper and more reliable. Probably quicker aswell....?
power to weight
R1 engine is about 130bhp and weight nothing, plus RWD
Quickest Corsa 0-60 to date is 4.9 and the saxo will easy run faster than that, PLUS the added factor the engines are standard.....
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ed
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I know of somone who has an Ultimate (I think?) kit car with an 800cc bike engine in it. It is group 2 insurance. He pays about £100 per year for it apparently.
These conversions are easy enough to insure as you basically have yourself a kit car 
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Ry_B
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Ah fair enough, not a bike man 
Would be nice to have the revs of a bike in a car! What do they rev to, 10k?
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ed
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This is what you need to do though... CVT + an LSD Its sriously fast. Engine sits at high RPM and the gears change themselves...
You basically mash the transmission of a snowmobile with the transmission of a motorbike then a few car parts too...
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jr
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only downside is of the chain lets go, saw a hillman imp with a blade engine where the chain let go and ripped the chassis apart
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BeArDy
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the Basic idea of this is, you dont need to run a Bike engine you can run any engine you want ie
C20XE
C20LET
Civic Type R (which they are starting to build now)
etc etc
People who are looking into LET conversion into Corsa maybe a good thing to look into these and look at the advantages and disadvantages......
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ed
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Yea, on our newest race cars we use a slightly more chunky chain gaurd.
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