stuartmitchell
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What the fcuk does it have to do with america or the uk for that matter if these mofos want to produce nuclear weapons? They don't bother us when we bulid weapons or invade countries (peace keeping  ) Really pisses me off 
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Half Pint
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well you will complian if they use it on us !
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Jodi_the_g
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Becuase they are bad men.
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vibrio
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Originally posted by stuartmitchell
What the fcuk does it have to do with america or the uk for that matter if these mofos want to produce nuclear weapons? They don't bother us when we bulid weapons or invade countries (peace keeping ) Really pisses me off
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because they are not allowed to develop nuclear weapons lol
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Because it's fun to have wars 
Oh and what Vibrio said...
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L33 LEG
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stuartmitchell
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by stuartmitchell
What the fcuk does it have to do with america or the uk for that matter if these mofos want to produce nuclear weapons? They don't bother us when we bulid weapons or invade countries (peace keeping ) Really pisses me off
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because they are not allowed to develop nuclear weapons lol
who said? why can we produce them then? I'm not good at politics 
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Jodi_the_g
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becuase we already had them before the UN decided that no one else should have them.
All the nuclear powers have disarment plans and new countrys arming themselves is always going to be a problem.
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stuartmitchell
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ahhh I see 
I can also see why the Iranians pissed off though
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John
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We can't do it.
Afaik nobody is officially allowed to develop weapons like that.
Although theres not a chance its not happening anyway.
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Ojc
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Not really a democratic way of doing business though is it?
We have nuclear weapons and I forbid anyone else from having them? Surely its up to them if they want to develop nuclear weapons or not, nobody told the Americans "oh hold on a minute I'm not sure you should be doing that"
Ok they are crazy arsed bastards and IF or WHEN they obtain nuclear weapons you can guarantee that Israel/Iraq/Pakistan/India will be top targets for them and a war would soon develop, and we care because? Leave them to destroy themselves thats all they have been good for, for the past 50 odd years.
Us in the Western world won't need to worry about there medicore short to medium range missiles, they won't have any ICBM's for years and years to come, unless some crazy arse ex-American missile technican drops the blueprints to a minuteman on someones desk.
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L33 LEG
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Ojc
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Anyway, the tall and short of it is MEDIA HYPE.
Please feel free to read exactly how difficult it would be for these morons to actually build something capable of hitting us from Iran.
Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Libya can manufacture or import steel of an equivalent grade to the material found in the early Minuteman II ICBM. If these countries seek to build a composite motor case instead, they must purchase the filament-winding machine from the United States, the FSU, France, Germany, the UK, or South Africa. The Chinese may be able to supply a reverse engineered filament winding machine based on Soviet technology.
Other than the traditional solid-propellant manufacturing centers in France, Swe-en, Norway, Germany, and the United States, many other European countries with arms manufacturing centers, such as the Czech Republic, have some solid-propellant capability. In addition, Pakistan can manufacture small, solid-propellant motors that can be used as strap-on boosters. South Africa also has an indigenous solid-propellant production capability, which, if it so desired, can export small solid-propellant motors. Proliferators that may wish to follow the liquid-fueled path to ICBMs without using strap-ons are likely to purchase turbopumps primarily from Germany, Sweden, the United States, France, or Russia.
The guidance and control package that a country needs to support an ICBM depends upon the desired accuracy it expects to achieve with its missile. Without a PBV, this accuracy is going to be poor, and more rudimentary technology can be used. Any industrial/advanced nation manufactures equipment and parts that, when properly constructed, can be used to build an inertial measuring unit. In addition to the United States, a proliferant can turn to Belgium, Germany, France, Holland, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Austria, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Russia, Italy, China, North Korea, South Korea, Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand, Egypt, or India. In general, though, a guidance and control unit, using a digital guidance computer and consistent with a staged missile, cannot be built from cannibalized parts of older, analog guidance systems. A PBV requires a small liquid rocket motor, cold gas thrusters, or many small total impulse solid rocket motors. These motors must be supported by a small guidance, control, and navigation unit that flies with the RVs until they are dropped. GPS units have wide application for this particular phase of the ICBM trajectory. Because of existing export controls, a proliferant would have to modify an over-the-counter GPS receiver to operate at high altitude and at ICBM velocities. The knowledge of how to build a GPS receiver is now widespread, however, and many individual hobbyists have built receivers that evade these restrictions. A modified GPS receiver or a GLONASS receiver is completely consistent with the needs of a PBV.
Technical Assistance
Besides supplying whole systems, many corporations and nations have offered technical assistance in the last 10 years to some emerging missile powers. German firms reportedly assisted the missile programs of Argentina, Brazil, Egypt, India, Iraq, and Libya. The Italians have offered assistance to Argentina, Egypt, and India. The French have participated in missile programs in Iraq and Pakistan. Israel has been accused by international arms regulators of participating in technology programs that lend a country the capability to build or modify a ballistic missile. The South Africans reportedly have received significant aid from the Israelis.
Most European countries can lend technical assistance to emerging missiles powers. The French have a long history of developing missiles, not only to support the Ariane space launch capability but to launch the force de frappe nuclear arsenal. The Italians have participated in the European Union space program that helped design the Hermes missile. While the British relied on American missile programs in the 1960’s to supply their TBM needs, a technical exchange program between Britain and the United States trained and educated a sizable pool of missile talent from the British Isles.
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Ojc
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READ AND UNDERSTAND THE WORLD YOU LIVE IN, THE REAL WORLD, NOT THE MEDIA WORLD.
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L33 LEG
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Originally posted by L33 LEG
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Originally posted by L33 LEG
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gianluigi
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Oliver, you inspire me
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John
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OJC do you know for sure its not the american government posting wherever you read and actually everything you read is made up.
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Ojc
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Originally posted by John
OJC do you know for sure its not the american government posting wherever you read and actually everything you read is made up.
If a tree fell in the woods, did it actually fall? You were'nt there to witness it.
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Half Pint
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what if you did witness it ?
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Ojc
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Then it happened, but if you did'nt witness it how do you know it fell?
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John
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Maybe the americans are just a figment of your imagination.
Have you actually been to america?
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gianluigi
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maybe none of this is real and we live in the matrix 
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Half Pint
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Originally posted by Ojc
Then it happened, but if you did'nt witness it how do you know it fell?
I recon it was the beavers eating the roots and caused it to become unstable......
causing it to fall
Save the tree, eat the beaver 
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Half Pint
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Originally posted by gianluigi
maybe none of this is real and we live in the matrix
cool can i jump buildings then ?
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gianluigi
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Originally posted by Half Pint
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Originally posted by gianluigi
maybe none of this is real and we live in the matrix
cool can i jump buildings then ?
yes video yourself doing it to
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