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Ojc
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Very intresting

THE MAGNETIC RAY

A similar device to the one operating below Ohrdruf finds a place in declassified literature as follows (I will supply full references for documents if requested):

On 6 December 1944, the US Military Intelligence Service commenced Research Project 1217 "Investigation into German Possible Use of Rays to Neutralize Allied Aircraft Motors". This resulted from "recent interference phenomena occasionally experienced on operations over Germany in the Frankfurt/Main area." It was usually described as "freakish interference to engines and electrical instruments" over the north bank of the Main River, about ten miles from FHQ Adlerhorst.

In a top secret report entitled "Engine Interference Counter-Measures" addressed to the Director, Air Technical Service Command, Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio, reference was made to OSS discussions about a German unit somewhere near Frankfurt/Main operating:

".....an influence interfering with conventional aircraft.....however incredible it may appear to project from the ground to a height of 30,000 feet sufficient magnetic energy to interfere with the functioning of the ignition system of an airplane, it must be concluded that the enemy not only intends to interfere with our aircraft by some immaterial means, but has also succeeded in accomplishing this intention...."


THE MIRACLE EXPLOSIVE

The four items of literature appearing to relate to the explosive tested at Ohrdruf in March 1945 are as follows:

(i) British Security Coordination (BSC) was the largest integrated intelligence network enterprise in history. Its Director was Sir William Stevenson, a Canadian industrialist. His code-name was "Intrepid". In his autobiography "A Man Called Intrepid" (Sphere Books, 1977 at page 414), Stevenson relates: "One of the BSC agents submitted a report, sealed and stamped THIS IS OF PARTICULAR SECRECY which told of "....liquid air bombs being developed in Germany......of terrific destructive effect."

The reader should not be misled into thinking that these were modern common-or-garden "liquid air bombs": Stevenson noted that they were "as powerful as rockets with atomic warheads".


(ii) "German Secret Weapons" (Ballantyne Press, UK, also Libr. Edit. San Martin, Madrid, 1975) was authored by Brian Ford (military scientist): Barrie Pitt (academic historian) and Capt Sir Basil Liddell Hart (military historian). At page 28 the text states:

"....The Whirlwind Bomb produced an artificial hurricane of fire and is absolutely authentic even though it may seem improbable. The explosive was developed and tested by Dr ZIPPERMAYR at Lofer, an experimental Luftwaffe institute in the Tyrol. The explosive was PULVERIZED COAL DUST and LIQUID AIR. Its effect was sufficient to create an artificial typhoon and was intended initially as an anti-aircraft weapon able to destroy aircraft by excessive turbulence. The effective radius of action was 914 metres...."
This is nothing special. We are still speaking here of a conventional development.


(iii) This is a 4-page declassified US Intelligence document (US Forces Austria Counter-Intelligence Corps, Salzburg Detachment, Zell am See report 4 August 1945, Case No S/Z/55 Dr Mario Zippermayr; NARA RG 319 Entry 82a Reports and messages, ALSOS Mission.
DR Zippermayr was interrogated at Lofer on 3 August 1945. His laboratories were established at Lofer with head office at Weimarerstrasse 87, Vienna. Staff was 35, work financed by RLM and under direction of Chef der Technischen Luftruestung.
ZIPPERMAYR worked on three projects of which one was the Enzian/Schmetterling anti-aircraft rockets "charged with a coal dust explsoive so strong that the concussion could break the wings of a bomber." This item "was proved successful by August 1943 BUT ORDERS FOR ITS PRODUCTION WERE NOT ISSUED UNTIL 9 MARCH 1945...."


(iv) This item is an extract from BIOS (British Intelligence Objectives Sub-Committee) Final Report 142(g) "Information Obtained from Targets of Opportunity in the Sonthofen Area, (HMSO London).
The report states that during 1944, an explosive mixture of 60% liquid air and 40% finely powdered coal dust invented by Dr Mario ZIPPERMAYR was tested at Doeberitz explosives ground near Berlin, and was found to be very destructive over a radius of up to 600 metres.
Waffen-SS scientists then became involved and added some kind of WAXY SUBSTANCE to the explosive. The bombs had to be filled immediately prior to the aircraft taking off. Bombs of 25 and 50 kgs were dropped on Starnberger See and photos taken. Standartenfuehrer Klemm showed these to Brandt (Himmler's scientific adviser). The intensive explosion covered an area up to 4.5 kms radius.


The WAXY SUBSTANCE was a reagent of some kind which was said to interact with air during the development of the explosion, causing it to change its composition and so create meteorological change in the atmosphere. A lightning storm at ground level consumes all the available oxygen. Goering's statement upon his arrest in May 1945 is significant: he claimed to have led a revolt against Luftwaffe use of a bomb "which could have destroyed all civilisation." The bomb was not a nuclear weapon, and it appears to have been a conventional explosive which used a reagent or catalyst produced by Tesla methodology or similar for its inexplicable effect.


There is another thread in the Axis History Forum where a contributor has innocently stumbled upon a connection which may well explain why the USA was FORCED to employ the atom bomb to terminate the war against Japan at the earliest possible opportunity.
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7th Sep 04 at 16:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm not suprised your a tea boy when you believe this shite
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Why don't you read it you fool, why do America classify all info on it?

I will post the link to the thread, HaEn one of the members on there was there in the last days, he was part of the SS and was a prisoner of war in America where he settled and lives to this day.
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i will this read later
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I love all this secret kick ass Nazi technology that keeps 'turning up'...

*sniff* Is that bullshit I smell.....?
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How can it be bullshit when Ohrduf is blocked off in Germany and any info regarding it is classifed for 100 years.

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Can we go to Ohrdruf Ojc? I'm intrigued by all this...
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
How can it be bullshit when Ohrduf is blocked off in Germany and any info regarding it is classifed for 100 years.




Exactly, so people just make up a load of shit because they know anything. So its either secret weapons or secret alien type space craft or they were putting a giant frikin "laser" on the moon.............
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I went to Ohrduf on my bike last year - cycled all around there. Had a lovely time
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quote:
Originally posted by Joff
I went to Ohrduf on my bike last year - cycled all around there. Had a lovely time


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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
How can it be bullshit when Ohrduf is blocked off in Germany and any info regarding it is classifed for 100 years.




Exactly, so people just make up a load of shit because they know anything. So its either secret weapons or secret alien type space craft or they were putting a giant frikin "laser" on the moon.............


OJC, stop humping the "laser"

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quote:
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I went to Ohrduf on my bike last year - cycled all around there. Had a lovely time
And did u see any secret nazi reports there

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You people are blind.

You will all see on March 26th 2005
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Is something gonna happen like Judgement Day

Are the machines taking over
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Arnies just burst into my room asking if I was John Connor..
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
How can it be bullshit when Ohrduf is blocked off in Germany and any info regarding it is classifed for 100 years.





http://www.ohrdruf.de/
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Do you watch a lot of movies?
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can't be arsed readin it
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You got to read it.

It could shape your future.

Patrick, how the devil are you babe?
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
You people are blind.

You will all see on March 26th 2005


Mere hours away now Ojc. What time will I start? Just wondering so I can set the alarm to get into my bunker?
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Did you go to Lutterworth High Carr?
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quote:
Originally posted by Carr
quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
You people are blind.

You will all see on March 26th 2005


Mere hours away now Ojc. What time will I start? Just wondering so I can set the alarm to get into my bunker?


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quote:
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Did you go to Lutterworth High Carr?


Yeah why?
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Some fit birds there isnt there, couple of my mates went there but that would have been 94-96 and you're 7 years younger than them.......

[Edited on 25-03-2005 by Tiger]

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