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M-IKE19
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19th Oct 09 at 19:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

iv just bought a astra gsi turbo with 57k miles, it has had a reconditioned turbo 500 miles ago with recipts but the problem is that the breather pipe that goes from the top of the rocker cover to the air box is pushin out mega fumes wen sittin idling it is not connected at the air box as it has a induction kit! any1 no what this could be! cheers
thegsi
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19th Oct 09 at 19:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So the breather hose is just open?
M-IKE19
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19th Oct 09 at 19:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just hanging down the back of the engine
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put a catch tank on it if there is no where to connect it to or go the cheap route an use a coke bottle
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Is it meant to be connected to anything?

And help zone's usually the place for this sort of thing mate.
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quote:
Originally posted by scottyp1989
put a catch tank on it if there is no where to connect it to or go the cheap route an use a coke bottle


How can you catch fumes?
M-IKE19
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19th Oct 09 at 19:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

as alan-g-w said its fumes that r coming out
thegsi
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19th Oct 09 at 19:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thats why then. If an after market filter has been fitted then you can either:

-Find a hose with a small outlet that you can connect the breather inline with your filter.
-Buy a small breather filter
-Buy an oil catch tank maybe?

My mate had this problem and we used the 2nd option and it stopped it.
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19th Oct 09 at 19:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by alan-g-w
quote:
Originally posted by scottyp1989
put a catch tank on it if there is no where to connect it to or go the cheap route an use a coke bottle


How can you catch fumes?


You wont catch fumes but it'll stop the excess rocker oil being burnt
M-IKE19
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19th Oct 09 at 19:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it stoped the fumes????

i had it next 2 my mate one the day and when we taken his pipe there was hardly anything coming out and mine was coming out thick and fast!
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19th Oct 09 at 19:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm not clued up that much on turbo'd stuff.
Why would you attach it inline with the filter?
How is a filter going to help if it's letting fumes out?
And what exactly is an OIL catch tank going to do?

Not meaning to be a dick, genuinely wondering.
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19th Oct 09 at 19:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well it has obviously caked up after being left for a while. Yes on my mates Clio, he left the filter/rocker breather open. Within 7 days a thick sludge had caked up the hose and it was smoking. As I said, we put a small breather filter on it. Within a week it was totally gone.
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19th Oct 09 at 19:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

But he's not got oil coming out at all by the sounds of things...?
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it basically the same as the hose that goes from the rocker cover to the throttle body on an xe so putting a catch tank on it will do exactly the same thing as on an xe, will catch excess rocker oil as said. if you take that pipe off any engine it will smoke out of it its not just turbos it does it on
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quote:
Originally posted by alan-g-w
I'm not clued up that much on turbo'd stuff.
Why would you attach it inline with the filter?
How is a filter going to help if it's letting fumes out?
And what exactly is an OIL catch tank going to do?

Not meaning to be a dick, genuinely wondering.


Its a breather. Doesnt make any difference if its n/a or aspirated. You will find that on most cars, one of the rocker breathers are attatched to some sort of filter to stop rocker oil build up, hence filters alow things to breathe easily. An oil catch tank will catch the excess rocker oil and deposit it into a tank so it cant be burnt or heated in the rocker which would result in it smoking.
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19th Oct 09 at 19:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If an oil catch tank's such a good thing and stops oil burning why aren't they like that as standard?

I'm confused out my nut here.
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19th Oct 09 at 19:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so should i try and clean the pipe out!
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19th Oct 09 at 19:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Not knowing what's being talked about, I'd put it back to the place it should be assuming it can be.
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quote:
Originally posted by alan-g-w
If an oil catch tank's such a good thing and stops oil burning why aren't they like that as standard?

I'm confused out my nut here.


Because his car shouldn't have that breather flapping around! It should be connected to a hose that will allow the rocker to breathe! But it isn't! And no one said they're good. I was trying to help the lad.
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19th Oct 09 at 19:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by M-IKE19
so should i try and clean the pipe out!

What and leave it? Whats the point in that? Just do one of the 3 options that I've given you. Any of them will stop your problem.
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19th Oct 09 at 19:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

There is no breather that goes into the airbox

thats what your problem is
M-IKE19
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19th Oct 09 at 19:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the thick breather that comes off the head and goes 2 the air box!

i will clean the pipe and get a filter at the weekend
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19th Oct 09 at 19:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

No breather from the rocker cover goes to the airbox

one goes to the throttle body/top hat and the other to the crossover
M-IKE19
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dont have a crossover

 
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