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IvIarkgraham
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8th Jun 09 at 18:09   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what sort of work would be involved? is there a minimum size compressor needed? is it difficult to get a good finish?

anything would be better than the shite thats on it now
Mike GSi
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if you go for a gloss colour its alot easier imo. mettalics get more difficult
IvIarkgraham
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8th Jun 09 at 18:13   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

will be black again probably
Ojc
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8th Jun 09 at 18:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Matt is the only way to go for home made spray jobs.
Mobby
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It is very hard to do a good job
Mike GSi
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get an old bonnet or something and practise?
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biggest problem will be dust in there air etc etc, good prepping with tack clothes and paint filters when pouring into the gun reduce bad results and finishes...... take your time and dont rush

then theres your technique in my eyes you can either spray or you cant lol

i use our spray booth at work and i get excellent results which i would say are bodyshop quality tbh lol.....







IvIarkgraham
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i think the bit i'll struggle with is the final bits. getting rid of orange peel things like that
CorsAsh
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1200+ grit wet and dry is your friend. Along with a machine buffer and G3.
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Small bits are easy to paint, but large areas such as bonnets, roofs and rear quarters would be a bitch to do. You would never get a good finish on it and for the money its going to cost for a ggod compressor and spray gun you may as well pay for it to be done professionally.
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I used to spray panels in my garage, just wet the floor when you start.









They're all fresh out of the gun, no rubbing back afterwards. Try to keep the air youre working in as dry and warm as possible. If it's damp,you spray onto cold materials, then the moisture in the air condenses into the paint or lacquer and you get clouding or blooming, which looks shit and will need respraying.
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Oh, and this was my kit:





So you don't need massive compressors and multi-million pound guns.
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I use a Devilbass and Iwata 400 and find that although they are expensive guns, I can get an excellent finish just the same from a cheap gun.
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Fair play Mr Gleave that looks like a good job Take all the advice you've been given, go get a bonnet/wing etc from the scrappies and practice a few times before going anywhere near your Corsa.
IvIarkgraham
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thing is my mum and dad wont allow me to have their garage too long so i'll probably have to go straight for it. is it worth doing a full one or doors shut? it doesnt have to be perfect just want it looking a bit better
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Matt is the only way to go for home made spray jobs.



12 cans for £30 on eBay. Can't go wrong.
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
Oh, and this was my kit:





So you don't need massive compressors and multi-million pound guns.



What size compressor is that?
John
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24 litre 1.5hp.

My brother got an equivalent stanley one from cotsco for about £100 recently.
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As corsa120 says the biggest problem is getting crap in the paint, also temperatures have a big part to play..

Painting small parts is relatively simple once you have mastered the art of preperation and paint mixing, painting a whole car is a different sotry.. Ideally you need some form of extraction to keep as much dust, dirt and insects away from the panels as possible or you will spend a life time flatting out and mopping what you have painted.

IMHO anyone can paint its down to having the skill and patience for the prep work as say they say 80% of the finish is in the preperation.
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quote:
Originally posted by B3KAN
So you don't need massive compressors and multi-million pound guns.


I use a 50 litre compressor and a £40 gun at home
ed
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Get the biggest most powerful compressor you can afford though, otherwise you'll be running out of air quite quickly...
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50 litres is fine for a HVLP gravity feed gun, you could probably get away with 25..

definitely work buying a water/oil filter!

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quote:
Originally posted by IvIarkgraham
i think the bit i'll struggle with is the final bits. getting rid of orange peel things like that


if you apply the clear coat when the top layer of the paint coat is still 'soft' this will help reduce 'orange peel'

 
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