Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by Kevxx
it is illegal, end of.
A dolly might do it, but doesn't car have to be under a certain weight?
rent a trailer! don't cost too much for all that hastle! and the car is a shit load safer!
dolly is for recovery only really. car doesnt have to be under a certain weight but again it comes under trailer liscence. also with a dolly, as 2 wheels are off the ground it doesnt need mot and tax either (if my understanding of the law is correct as thats what they told me on phone from dvla)
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antnee
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Registered: 30th Dec 07
Location: Cov Drives: Clio 197
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A trailer from HSS is only about £40 for the day IIRC
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DAZ1985
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Registered: 3rd Sep 06
Location: Scholar Green, Cheshire
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it would need to be a light weight trailer though, i will make an enquiry though
so if two wheels are off the floor it wont need tax or mot?
a frame or dolly i can get hold of with ease ill ring the dvla and the police to see where i stand to get a definate answer.
Their just seems to be alot of confusion
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
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If it has wheels on the floor it needs to be legal unless you're recovering it, in which case you can't go 100 miles.
If you're going 100 miles, forget any hotch potch, it's illegal and you'll get potentially many points because you wanted to save 100 quid.
Trailer is 30pd
http://www.barlowtrailers-products.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=124_127&zenid=4ca78407d7a452e34c09bb1fd153ebe1
If you need something to tow it with I got a LWB transit for 75 although you may get something smaller for less. That was the only vehicle at that notice with a hook.
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Steve X16XE
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Registered: 31st Dec 06
Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire
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Ian, that link is fantastic!
I've saved that for future use 
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Eck
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Registered: 17th Apr 06
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And to all the people who believe that because it's booked into an MOT centre, it doesn't have to have tax or mot... Incorrect.
MOT yes, you will have to prove that it is booked in to have it's mot done, but it must be taxed to be on the road under any circumstances.
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Steve X16XE
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Only if you get cought though Eckles.....
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James_DT
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
also isnt it with an a frame that car and frame are not to be over 750kg's or something?
If the trailer with contents is over 750kg, then the combination of vehicle + trailer has to be less than 3500kg. If the trailer is less than 750kg, the maximum is 3500kg towing vehicle + 750kg trailer.
The trailer can't exceed the weight of the towing vehicle in either case.
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Motor vehicles with a MAM not exceeding 3500kg having not more than eight passenger seats with a trailer up to 750kg. Combinations of towing vehicles in category B and a trailer, where the MAM of the combination does not exceed 3500kg and the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen mass of the towing vehicle
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/WhatCanYouDriveAndYourObligations/DG_4022547
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PaulW
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Registered: 26th Jan 03
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
If it has wheels on the floor it needs to be legal unless you're recovering it, in which case you can't go 100 miles.
If you're going 100 miles, forget any hotch potch, it's illegal and you'll get potentially many points because you wanted to save 100 quid.
Trailer is 30pd
http://www.barlowtrailers-products.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=124_127&zenid=4ca78407d7a452e34c09bb1fd153ebe1
If you need something to tow it with I got a LWB transit for 75 although you may get something smaller for less. That was the only vehicle at that notice with a hook.
Worth noting Ian, that you still need B+E License Entitlement to tow a car using a trailer such as these.
Anyone who passed there test *after* january 1st 1998 need to take an extra towing test to gain the entitlement. Those who passed before that time are fine.
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Steve X16XE
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Registered: 31st Dec 06
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The tables list the vehicle category descriptions for driving tests passed after 1 January 1997 and the minimum ages for driving them. All weights refer to maximum authorised mass (MAM) unless stated otherwise. This is the total weight of the vehicle plus the maximum load it can carry.
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Motor vehicles with a MAM not exceeding 3500kg having not more than eight passenger seats with a trailer up to 750kg. Combinations of towing vehicles in category B and a trailer, where the MAM of the combination does not exceed 3500kg and the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen mass of the towing vehicle
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Combinations of vehicles consisting of a vehicle in category B and a trailer, where the combination does not come within category B
To break that down a little, it seams that as long as your car and trailer do not weigh more than 3500KG then you do not need to do this test. If both weights are over 3500KG then you do.
If you read further down that page you'll see that it says very plain that if your trailer is over 750KG then you DO need to take this other test however the vehicle that you are in weighs more than 3500KG.
Damn I'm confused 
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Steve X16XE
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Where can you do this test? I'm going to do it even if I do need to do it or not. If it makes me a better and safer driver then i'm all for it!!!
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DAZ1985
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Registered: 3rd Sep 06
Location: Scholar Green, Cheshire
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The combined weight would be less than 3500kg im certain of that. Im going to collect the car on sunday. So ill need to sort something asap.
I can borrow a trailer but then the combined wieght would exceed the limit as its a big one
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Jenko_Sport
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Registered: 25th May 06
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What you getting daz, may need you have a word with your mate aswell for me.
Wide arch is still being gay, stupid emissions lol.
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DAZ1985
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Registered: 3rd Sep 06
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Getting a s1 106  hopefully
Not sure about mot's tbh
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