cesil
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Registered: 20th Aug 06
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what mods would i have to do to get to 150ish bhp?
how much roughly would it be?
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Linch
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Registered: 4th May 06
Location: Whickham, Tyne and Wear
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inlet, cams, remap, manifold, zaust and razed rev limit and arp bolts.
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eastend
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Registered: 13th Mar 07
Location: Taunton, Somerset
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inlet £300
Cams £300
Verniers £170
Remap £250 - £450
Manifold £250
Exhaust £200
Raised Limit With ReMap
also could do
Lightened Flywheel £150
Ported And Polished Head £200
That should be around 150 bhp and is the route i am going 
Other ways are the throttle body kits, can see 160 bhp from the cheapest kit i belive, bout £1600
[Edited on 26-01-2008 by eastend]
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richard_cooper
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This threat is very helpfull. hopeing to get around 140-150bhp from my sport/gsi when ive sold my corsa to buy a new one!
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corsa321
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i was gona make my 1.6 sport to 15o bhp ish but for the price of that u can buy a decent red top
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Linch
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa321
i was gona make my 1.6 sport to 15o bhp ish but for the price of that u can buy a decent red top
Indeed you could, but the 1.6 would be more fun imo
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Fad
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It'll cost you more than the car is worth basiclly
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Aerox-lad
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buy a redtop engine that 150 brake innit?
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Pucci1
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quote:
Originally posted by Aerox-lad
buy a redtop engine that 150 brake innit?
sport engine will be lighter
and corning will be better with the sport engine
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LeeM
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Registered: 26th Sep 05
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here we go again
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Robin
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Registered: 7th Jan 04
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I was trying to get to 150bhp on mine, I had
Lexmaul inlet - £350
Janspeed exhaust manifold - £180
Sportex decat - £60
Chipwizards ECU map with 7200rpm rev limit - £300
Blueflame exhaust - £300
Pipercross Viper - £250
SBD idlers - £90
and I had 130bhp when it broke.
A decent head would have seen 8bhp more and then cams on top of that, plus a new map, and I would have seen 150 if I was lucky, but I think I still would have been short, unless I swapped the Lexmaul for a Mantzel and went to proper management, ARP rod bolts and a rev limit nearer 8000rpm.
If I was doing it now, I'd spend the money on an SBD TP164 throttle body kit (or spec my own which was pretty much the same), that's good for about 160bhp with a standard head) and gives more potential in the future.
150bhp is acheivable without TBs, but it's not worth it IMO, I've been there, I could have had TBs for my £1530 
[Edited on 27-01-2008 by Robin]
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rob_zetec
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whats the point why not just by a quicker car for the money, i understand you might want a sleeper but i would just buy a retop, seems a waste of money to me
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SAL
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I would go with Robin's idea, tb's all the way 
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harrisp
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quote:
Originally posted by rob_zetec
whats the point why not just by a quicker car for the money, i understand you might want a sleeper but i would just buy a retop, seems a waste of money to me
heavier engine in a car that understeers anyway plus it will be an older engine.
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mav
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Registered: 19th Jun 01
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quote:
Originally posted by rob_zetec
whats the point why not just by a quicker car for the money, i understand you might want a sleeper but i would just buy a retop, seems a waste of money to me
and wants to modify it not just plonk an old heavy engine in...Go down tuning the 1.6 route...........
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Superlite Ltd.
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quote:
Originally posted by Fad
It'll cost you more than the car is worth basiclly
second
tbh, i'd buy a faster car
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TomWilly
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boring
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Vaux Lad
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
I was trying to get to 150bhp on mine, I had
Lexmaul inlet - £350
Janspeed exhaust manifold - £180
Sportex decat - £60
Chipwizards ECU map with 7200rpm rev limit - £300
Blueflame exhaust - £300
Pipercross Viper - £250
SBD idlers - £90
and I had 130bhp when it broke.
A decent head would have seen 8bhp more and then cams on top of that, plus a new map, and I would have seen 150 if I was lucky, but I think I still would have been short, unless I swapped the Lexmaul for a Mantzel and went to proper management, ARP rod bolts and a rev limit nearer 8000rpm.
If I was doing it now, I'd spend the money on an SBD TP164 throttle body kit (or spec my own which was pretty much the same), that's good for about 160bhp with a standard head) and gives more potential in the future.
150bhp is acheivable without TBs, but it's not worth it IMO, I've been there, I could have had TBs for my £1530
[Edited on 27-01-2008 by Robin]
What broke on it?
To be fair tho, a few of those prices can be reduce, de-cat can be self made for about a fiver. And a cheaper exhaust system would also do the job.
The SBD rollers and Viper induction kit are also not needed imo. The rollers yes, at higher revs than 7200rpm.
Out of interest, where did it make peak power in the revs? What was the torque?
Theres a 1600 16v on mig that makes about 150/160bhp, with a mantzel fitted, on proper management.
[Edited on 27-01-2008 by Vaux Lad]
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Robin
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Registered: 7th Jan 04
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Head warped, the engine had no water in it as the water hose on the back of the head came off, then when I put water back in it, it didn't run, so I left it empty and it was fine 
Just needed a skim and it would have been fine, but I was a fool and bought another car.
Those prices are brand new prices for the bits I had, I didn't pay anywhere near that I got the Viper for £90 nearly new, paid £400 for the ECU with remap, Lexmaul and Lexmaul strutbrace, the Exhaust cost me a set of Sport wheels, so it was only the idlers, decat and manifold I bought new.
The idlers aren't NEEDED, but they're a good idea, Teddy had a standard one collapse at standard revs not long after I got my SBD ones, he was lucky it happened at idle and the engine was finee.
Peak power was 130bhp at 6733rpm
Peak torque was 123lb/ft at 4533rpm
So it definitely needed cams and headwork.
Broster had a nearly identical spec to me, all the bits were the same, but the manifold and decat were different, but along with a Jamsport head, he made 138bhp with the ECU.
Even with cams, 150bhp would have been a struggle with the Lexmaul and a 'standard' ECU IMO.
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Vaux Lad
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Nice, quite good torque then. Probably down to the lexmaul.
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davey_jack
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I think everyone has to go the tuner route at some point, purely because its a good bit of fun, once you've done it and had your fun and got bored of it, you realise you are far better getting a faster standard car.
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gavin18787
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will be interested to see what mine makes on the cs rolling road day coming up
>mantzel
>magnex system
>janspeed 421
>k&N in drilled airbox
>ported and polished c16 head
>sbd rollers + arp rod bolts
>diablis ecu chip with 7800rpm limit
would be nice to see 130ish
needs cams but im not sure on the health of the block 
Drives supercharged Tec with torque  
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