thegsi
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Registered: 3rd Feb 07
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are they any good? ive heard good things but also a few about they rust easily? any advice/experience? please share. ta
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dan_c4rsa
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Registered: 12th Dec 06
Location: North Yorks Drives: MK3 Seat Cupra
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lots of different opinions as theyre franchises and run differently.
go to longlife or exhausts uk or somewhere theyre all good.
or jsut make sure the powerflow dealer your off to has a good rep 
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MatthewR
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Registered: 21st Oct 02
Location: Rickmansworth
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depends where u go
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Rob B
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As said its a franchise, personally i can see some peoples points of view, i had one done by powerflow in tamworth and would never go again cause i had to go back three times, however my last 4 car's i have had done by a guy in stafford who's been doing it nine years, and he is perfect.
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VegasPhil
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Mine has been brilliant mate. You'll get plenty of different opinions on the company but I think it depends on the quality of the dealer that makes the exhaust. My dealer has been brilliant at making my exhaust from scratch even working with making a system to suit how low my car is. I haven't ever heard it bang, rattle or squeak and it was worth every penny.
There are a number of members on here that are very happy with their powerflow exhaust systems, me included - However there are some people that aren't.
Anyone that comes straight in here and says Powerflow are crap clearly doesnt really know what they're on about.
Corsa 2.0 16v Vegas - Sold
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dna23
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Ask them what grade stainless steel they use, it varies between franchises and this often has a result on its lifespan, how much it rusts .etc
When you know that you can look up whether or not it's a good choice. I believe they have:
430 - http://www.azom.com/details.asp?ArticleID=996
409 - http://www.azom.com/Details.asp?ArticleID=969
304 - http://www.azom.com/Details.asp?ArticleID=965
Generally powerflow use the 409 as it's cheaper, the 304 is a better option. Also I think they mig weld (even though they shouldn't) instead of tig which is a worse finish.
Now they do offer a lifetime guarentee iirc so it's not too much of a problem if you're happy to go back should a problem arise.
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dan-h
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Registered: 28th Jan 06
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mine is great 
[Edited on 29-10-2007 by dan-h]
[Edited on 29-10-2007 by dan-h]
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dan_c4rsa
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how long has that been on :S
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Liam
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Registered: 19th Jan 06
Location: Stafford
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob B
As said its a franchise, personally i can see some peoples points of view, i had one done by powerflow in tamworth and would never go again cause i had to go back three times, however my last 4 car's i have had done by a guy in stafford who's been doing it nine years, and he is perfect.
Is that the place on marston road? Stafford Tyres?
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Nic Barnes
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ones done at my work (no not biased) are very good. ive had a few over the years never once had to take one back
franchise, get some good, get some bad.
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leekeefy
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when i worked at powerflow in 2002 409 grade stainless was used which does rust quite badly,they use this cos its cheaper and is less brittle than 304.
general concensus now it that 304 is used throughout,although that maybe just the pipework.
they make a fortune on the systems!...a 3 metre length of 63mm was £18 and boxes were £15 each.
an average system in 2002 cost £58!!!
Lee
[Edited on 29-10-2007 by leekeefy]
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csweatherston
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Registered: 16th Jan 06
Location: Devon
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my centre sections made from marine grade 208 i think.....
something like that lol
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Linch
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Registered: 4th May 06
Location: Whickham, Tyne and Wear
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quote:
Originally posted by csweatherston
my centre sections made from marine grade 208 i think.....
How often do you go deep sea diving with your exhaust 
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leekeefy
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Registered: 8th Sep 07
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yeah we had a batch of railings the had broke off the titanic a while back
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Xs
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quote:
Originally posted by leekeefy
when i worked at powerflow in 2002 409 grade stainless was used which does rust quite badly,they use this cos its cheaper and is less brittle than 304.
general concensus now it that 304 is used throughout,although that maybe just the pipework.
they make a fortune on the systems!...a 3 metre length of 63mm was £18 and boxes were £15 each.
an average system in 2002 cost £58!!!
Lee
[Edited on 29-10-2007 by leekeefy]
Prices on stainless steel have recently went up and you will find that its no where near that now, you are also paying for someones skills. Doesnt cost a garage anything to do some jobs but its the "labour" you pay for.
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cunningham
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Registered: 25th May 05
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had one on my old black corsa was on for 2 years loved it never had a spot of bother
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leekeefy
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quote:
Originally posted by Xs
quote:
Originally posted by leekeefy
when i worked at powerflow in 2002 409 grade stainless was used which does rust quite badly,they use this cos its cheaper and is less brittle than 304.
general concensus now it that 304 is used throughout,although that maybe just the pipework.
they make a fortune on the systems!...a 3 metre length of 63mm was £18 and boxes were £15 each.
an average system in 2002 cost £58!!!
Lee
[Edited on 29-10-2007 by leekeefy]
Prices on stainless steel have recently went up and you will find that its no where near that now, you are also paying for someones skills. Doesnt cost a garage anything to do some jobs but its the "labour" you pay for.
thats why is said in 2002 the cost was £58,not the labour,i wasn't saying for 1 minute that you would get an exhaust for £58 fitted but when i fitted an exhaust to my cars that was how much the materials would cost,back then 409 was only used which may reflect the price,i've no doubt that prices would have gone up for using more expensive materials.
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J4M13
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your right Xs. I work for d.c.m.s(ex topgearNW) we have nothing but an excellent reputation for our exhaust and service, ask any of the nw people. As is said every single time a powerflow exhaust thread is made, each garage that do powerflow exhausts is a seperate franchise altogether. It all depends on which one you go to what service and quality of workmanship you receive. We use nothing but grade 304 stainless pipe and stainless mig wire.
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leekeefy
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i worked there in 2002 just b4 gary left so you'll know the story!
i know things have improved since then.
[Edited on 29-10-2007 by leekeefy]
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J4M13
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i dont really know the full story on gary but i wouldnt want to go into that on here. I do know that we are highly respected in what we do though. And im not just trying to big up my boss's company, im grateful i work there, best job iv ever had!
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leekeefy
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i know what you mean,i loved it there too
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IvIarkgraham
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mine seems good
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DJMartin07
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How much does it cost to have a full system done in 304 grade including manifold, as my standard system has blown apart from cat and the performance backbox.
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cunningham
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dont think powerflow do manifolds
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