Dave A
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Originally posted by gavin18787
Although tbs arnt for everyday use though are they?
mine has seen everyday use for 2-3 years on tb's. far more reliable than a standard engine if they are set up and mapped well.
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jr
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Vaux Lad
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Originally posted by matt_aka_smiler
Id love to have tbs but its the cost 
Not really.
When you consider how much new Mantzel inlets were, and how much a remap etc is.
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gavin18787
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Well seeing as the mantzel is what is avalible at the moment I think i will go for it. How noticable is the difference once fitted compared to standard?
Not in bhp figures but the drivability mainly........
Drives supercharged Tec with torque  
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gavin18787
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
quote:
Originally posted by gavin18787
Although tbs arnt for everyday use though are they?
mine has seen everyday use for 2-3 years on tb's. far more reliable than a standard engine if they are set up and mapped well.
Out of interest what would be the cost on average of some tb's fitted and mapped?
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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Warren G
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Originally posted by Monster
So you get 1750rpm of power?
try 1500rpm with a 6500rpm rev limit 
and a lexmaul is a more everyday mod, as has good mid range power, but less top end
just think a diesel doesn't rev high and has low down torque and there foooking quick! so you need everything at the topend
throttle bodies give loads torque below 4000rpm whereas a powerbox one would have fuk all
theres always the throttle bodies that retain standard managment, like the ones iv got, and like what Rob_lee had on his nova
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Vaux Lad
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quote:
Originally posted by gavin18787
Well seeing as the mantzel is what is avalible at the moment I think i will go for it. How noticable is the difference once fitted compared to standard?
Not in bhp figures but the drivability mainly........
Not a big different imo.
Yes they make more peak power, but only at higher revs.
At more "road friendly" revs there making same power as a standard inlet.
Whereas tb's would have a flatter torque area, and more power all around.
In my opinion the dbilas/steinmetz bodies on a standard ecu/map are pointless. Might as well just fit a mantzel,save messing with lowering the alternator mount etc.
[Edited on 21-08-2007 by Vaux Lad]
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matt_aka_smiler
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quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
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Originally posted by matt_aka_smiler
Id love to have tbs but its the cost
Not really.
When you consider how much new Mantzel inlets were, and how much a remap etc is.
How much is a remap though?
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Vaux Lad
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£300/£400?
You can get a go-tech ecu for that.
Obviously it needs mapping, but its value is a lot more than a one off remap.
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matt_aka_smiler
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so your saying id be better off selling my dbilas and getting tbs?
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gavin18787
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Oh i assumed the new inlets made a big difference as people are always raving about them etc
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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Vaux Lad
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Originally posted by matt_aka_smiler
so your saying id be better off selling my dbilas and getting tbs?
Not really, as you already have the dbilas inlet.
Tb's,inlet, management costs are a lot more than a remap cost for your current engine.
[Edited on 21-08-2007 by Vaux Lad]
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Vaux Lad
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Originally posted by gavin18787
Oh i assumed the new inlets made a big difference as people are always raving about them etc
As already said, mantzel inlets make the power above the standard limiter.
Not much change below that.
Lexmaul give a good gain all over(good for everyday use)
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gavin18787
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quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
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Originally posted by gavin18787
Oh i assumed the new inlets made a big difference as people are always raving about them etc
As already said, mantzel inlets make the power above the standard limiter.
Not much change below that.
Lexmaul give a good gain all over(good for everyday use)
But the mantzel wouldnt lose any power from anywhere?
I would like a lexmaul but they seem to be like gold dust
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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Jake
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I think you should drive a corsa with a lexmaul and one with a mantzel.
When i was shopping for an inlet I asked around and was given the same response about the mantzel - low down torque is reduced because they are designed to make power higher up the rev range - something to do with air pressure whereas the lexmaul retains torque(the black inlet pipe around the back of the engine helps increase air pressure to the inlet which means lower down power) I'll stand corrected if im wrong, though.
[Edited on 21-08-2007 by jake]
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burgess
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you can still get brand spanking lexmaul's from a stockist in scotland just over £300 inc delivery
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willhouse
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the aftermarket inlets make a big difference on a standard engine, it completely changed my corsa and i was happy with its performance for a long time and felt no need to to any other engine mods after just fitting the inlet alone
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gavin18787
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Originally posted by burgess
you can still get brand spanking lexmaul's from a stockist in scotland just over £300 inc delivery
Care to name the company 
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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burgess
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Superspeed Car Accessories
227, Corstorphine Road
Edinburgh EH 12 7AY
Tel: 0131-3164200
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Vaux Lad
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Lexmaul are still sold direct in germany too.
About £280.
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burgess
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quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
Lexmaul are still sold direct in germany too.
About £280.
yeah looked into it and its more expensive to get it from germany than the dealer in scotland
ended up with a dbilas in the end anyway so havnt delt with them myself
other than enquiring a price etc
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Adam-D
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dbilas
my engine
[Edited on 22-08-2007 by Adam-D]
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*Laura*
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quote:
Originally posted by jake
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Originally posted by gavin18787
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Originally posted by jake
It depends how you drive the car and where you want to power band to be
What would the differences be? One provide more low down power?
I'm lead to believe on mantzels, dblias etc the power is moved up the rev range so low down torque is affected where as the lexmaul keeps low down torque but the power increase is increased throughout the rev range
I heard this before I got mine but its not true. I actually find mine has a little more torque now the inlet is fitted. Not much more low down, but mines on a 1.4 & hasnt been remapped so I imagine on a gsi with a remap the difference would be much more noticable!
Mines a dbilas, I was originally after a lexmaul but this came up cheap & I liked the fact it fit with my carbon cover
[Edited on 22-08-2007 by *Laura*]
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gavin18787
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quote:
Originally posted by burgess
Superspeed Car Accessories
227, Corstorphine Road
Edinburgh EH 12 7AY
Tel: 0131-3164200
Cheers mate 
I will enquire about them and go from there. Seems to be mixed opinions regarding the others from different people on here 
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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