corsa_sport_jay
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Originally posted by Marc
You're the one whos 5`7 and 18st 
muscle weighs more than fat also 
try this stuff mate: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10LB-PROLAB-N-LARGE-WHEY-PROTEIN-WEIGHT-GAINER-GAIN_W0QQitemZ150108099716QQcategoryZ97034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
my brother has it and he takes a shake of it daily and its vanilla flavour its well nice aswell, just like a vanilla milk shake.
if u want to c fast gains mate u have to follow a strong diet,
lean mince
chicken breasts
serloin steak
salmon
and theres a few more gud foods, there is a magazine my brother buys about men and muscle and i read it its very good for £3.50
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Marc
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Originally posted by corsa_sport_jay
muscle weighs more than fat also
I know, Cosmos just fat.
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by SteveW
if you a fairly skinny chap... then try Cyclone from maximuscle (aint cheap)
but has 10g creatine 10g glutamine(sp) and i think 3000mg HMB plus 60g protein
its one of the best "all in one" jobbies
most of which will be pissed out, as your body will only absorb around half of that in one sitting.
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by Marc
You're the one whos 5`7 and 18st
5' 4" and 21st actually
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jaffa
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Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by SteveW
if you a fairly skinny chap... then try Cyclone from maximuscle (aint cheap)
but has 10g creatine 10g glutamine(sp) and i think 3000mg HMB plus 60g protein
its one of the best "all in one" jobbies
most of which will be pissed out, as your body will only absorb around half of that in one sitting.
Thats two servings worth tho I think, its only 30g per shake. One morning one night/after training
[Edited on 05-04-2007 by jaffa]
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by jaffa
Thats two servings worth tho I think, its only 30g per shake. One morning one night/after training
[Edited on 05-04-2007 by jaffa]
ah, his 'all in one' thing threw me, but if it is two then its not too bad.
Still think its pointless if you wont improve your diet as you wont see proper gains without it.
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jaffa
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by jaffa
Thats two servings worth tho I think, its only 30g per shake. One morning one night/after training
[Edited on 05-04-2007 by jaffa]
ah, his 'all in one' thing threw me, but if it is two then its not too bad.
Still think its pointless if you wont improve your diet as you wont see proper gains without it.
no 100% agree with you. nail the diet then use the shakes to just help top it up, and after training as its the quickest way get protein into your body after a workout
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AdZ9
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gotta give your body an insulin spike so its absorbed quicker, but as people have said. Do a diet plan first otherwise you'll fail and lose alot of money
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by AdZ9
gotta give your body an insulin spike so its absorbed quicker, but as people have said. Do a diet plan first otherwise you'll fail and lose alot of money
which is why most good shakes are best for after workouts as will often be a good mix to create the insulin spike
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dna23
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=769390
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AdZ9
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by AdZ9
gotta give your body an insulin spike so its absorbed quicker, but as people have said. Do a diet plan first otherwise you'll fail and lose alot of money
which is why most good shakes are best for after workouts as will often be a good mix to create the insulin spike
indeed  my post work out shake has oatmeal in it too, the people at work look at me like im mental, love it!
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Jake
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oatmeal is no good straight after a workout. It slows down the digestion of protein, Have it before bed instead.
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SteveW
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yeah its a 2 serving jobbie..
pretty good stuff. will be moving onto that after i finish my Promax Extreme
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sigibbons
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Originally posted by SteveW
if you a fairly skinny chap... then try Cyclone from maximuscle (aint cheap)
but has 10g creatine 10g glutamine(sp) and i think 3000mg HMB plus 60g protein
its one of the best "all in one" jobbies
Cheers Steve, ive ordered some of this. Also have bought a shit load of chicken breasts and am going to get the diet sorted.
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SteveW
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nice one chappy...
get the diet sorted first before taking the cyclone. you want to get most of your protein from food really.
get down the gym and get a good programme writen up. then after a while (maybe a month or more) start using the cyclone. so you can see if it makes a difference in your training. 
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sigibbons
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Well ive got circuit training tonight which is basicly using every peice of equipment there for an hour non stop.
The other days i go i really need to make a routine. And not repeat the same exercises two days running?
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jmucorsasport
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Originally posted by flame1987
yup it is not an easy task, plus 5 times a week to the gym seems a little like overtraining unless it is one day weights one day cardio?.
5 days weight training will not give the muscles chance to develop ,recover and most importantly GROW
It will if he's on a five day split, doin one body part per day and leavin it a wk or so between training the same body part again.
Buling requires minimum 1.5kg per pound of bodyweight, double that for carb intake an no more than 70g of fat per day. Split this over 5-8 meals and with a decent training program you should see results.
Supplement wise go for a 100% instant WHEY, this is the most effective, stack it with Creatine Ethyl Ester, this is much better than pure monohydrate and has little or no side effects, go for tablet form.
Also important to change your training program every 6 wks to avoid plateau. I.e go from 3x6 reps (strength work) to 3x15-20 reps (endurance) than to 3x8 reps (hypertrophy, bulking)... Its important to get the 15-20 reps in to ensure you work the musle through the full range of movement, and it also builds up your lactate threshold and shocks the body.
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