jay kay
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bet you never forgot your kit again
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topshot_2k
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Originally posted by Steve
thats fucking sick
would never be allowed today
[Edited on 13-03-2007 by Steve]
TBH kids get treated like royalty today, i now work in a school as Net Tech and im still wary of PE teachers 
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Steve
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bet he 'forgot' it everyweek 
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topshot_2k
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quote:
Originally posted by jay kay
bet you never forgot your kit again
it never happened to me, my aunt lived in the same village as the school so i used to bunk off if i forgot
other punishments included doing netball with the girls etc
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Steve
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thats a punishment?? 
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topshot_2k
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it is when your 11 and all your mates are yelling abuse from the footy pitch and your wearing a bib with GA stamped on it 
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Steve
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id love to do that 
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IntaCepta
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for those who care, probably not many by looking at the progress of this thread.
I update and scan avg AV, kerio firewall, spybot, adaware etc regularly.
Haven't installed any keyloggers or monitering server software of the like. My paypal password would be difficult to guess. I froze all my accounts. I can sew. I haven't seen steve's weener and I do wish to fornicate with my PE teacher.
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Cosmo
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Hopefully you'll of stopped them before they got some money.
What have the bank/paypal said?
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jay kay
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Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
yes its a load of bollox
you would have to install something very specific for something to do that, would require your input to allow theinstall also, it couldnt install itself and operate like that
[Edited on 13-03-2007 by Steve]
Nope... When I was about 14/15 I thought it was funny to install trojans on mates computers, but soon realised it wasn't. Essentially you could attach the trojen to anything, a normal file, a script etc...
i.e. they'd open a normal outlook.exe or whatever and it'd open the trojen client file silently without them even knowing, it'd then send me their ip address every time they logged onto the net and I could just tap straight into their pc.
Soon realised how dangerous it was when I realised someone else was tapping into my mates computer other than me only did it like once 'as a joke'.
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Steve
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excatly you have to either be there, or physically run or open a file, viruses or trojans cannot just appear with no user intervention, also windows xp wont let this type of installation over the net
[Edited on 13-03-2007 by Steve]
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drax
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Most users wont realise they are assisting intervention of installation of such programs, alot of programs will run from a file with no indication that they have been installed and bind themselfs into the windows API.
Executing the program it was attached to, and that running fine with no suspect action from the trojan.
The file could be attached to anything, zip files or images for example, and dont go into bollocks of how images arnt executed, as you can disguise them into appearing as an image, executing the program and displaying an image.
It has been done for years, submitting details of gaining access to peoples computers, logging keystrokes, recogising saved passwords etc..
service pack 2 wont allow alot of things anymore due to the increased security, still alot of people dont run any updates however.
Another point is, you can become infected by some websites which are displaying certain content part of the reason for the flash / javascript security messages.
Most of the problem with that was adobe and microsoft falling out however.
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Dom
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haven't read the post, but sub7 would do the trick nicely to be installed along side another program and be a keylogger
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Steve
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please dom, read the whole thread its an insight
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drax
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Sub7 is so old im not sure it would even get onto most computers any more..
The types you need to watch out for are ones that people create that arent released to general public. These wont be picked by anti virus, and if the coders know what they are doing can disable firewalls and anti virus upon excecution anyway
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Russ
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
please dom, read the whole thread its an insight
steve, my paypal details were stolen, i use a seperate email, i use a seperate password, i later found out i had a trojan. so yes it can happen...
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jay kay
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haha russ steve is talking about his bald sac and small willy
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Russ
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quote:
Originally posted by jay kay
haha russ steve is talking about his bald sac and small willy
i only read the first page then quoted from the last
[Edited on 13-03-2007 by Russ]
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Steve
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read it all 
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jamesw
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http://www.eweek.com/article2/0%2C1895%2C2102657%2C00.asp
Check the date of that post aswell
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topshot_2k
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even if a trojan runs etc it still needs the user to accept/run/open it
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Rob Withey
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
show me some documented evidence on the web then warning of such programs?
a program or virus that installs itself without you knowing, records all your keylogs and then sends all that info back somewhere
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10692
Keylogger allegedly installed via a buffer overrun in Outlook's preview pane, then used to capture passwords and steal the half life 2 source.
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
even if a trojan runs etc it still needs the user to accept/run/open it
eh...so even if the trojan RUNS you still need to RUN IT? contradiction there 
and steve i have no interest in reading this whole thread, its the same as the xbox vs sony threads, just a different smell 
[Edited on 13-03-2007 by Dom]
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