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Poot
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31st Oct 06 at 00:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Literally...just got home now, was on the way back and all of a sudden I hear a 'clunk' and got no gears, they will all engage (reverse gears still makes the usual slight whine) but theres no drive the the wheels, not a CV joint as they're both solid, also appears to be oil pouring out from the nearside part of the gearbox where the shaft goes into the box?

My dad reckons possibly sheared off the shaft...I'm a bit boggled

1.2 8v btw

[Edited on 31-10-2006 by Poot]
Gregor
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31st Oct 06 at 00:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Christ. Exact same has happened to me. Let me know how you get on !
Poot
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31st Oct 06 at 00:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Common problem with corsa gearboxes perhaps? Will strip the nearside whell and hub off, see if I can pull the shaft off and see whats happened
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31st Oct 06 at 00:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Can you do it tonight so that can have a rough idea from it
Poot
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31st Oct 06 at 00:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

doubt it tonight, will be up at 6am though, see whats happened to it, will post up tomorrow my progress and see if i can get a couple of pics for you
Gregor
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31st Oct 06 at 00:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Cheers , will be taking mine apart tommorow night
Robin
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31st Oct 06 at 00:26   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sure the linkage hasnt just come undone?
Gregor
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31st Oct 06 at 00:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

His/my gears are all still engaging though , surely this wouldnt happen if that were the case ?
Poot
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31st Oct 06 at 00:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Robin
sure the linkage hasnt just come undone?

Dont think so because it selects all the gears, i.e. makes the same whining noise in reverse as it did when it was working, also I was taking off in 1st gear at the time and clunk...lost all drive in every gear
Gregor
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31st Oct 06 at 00:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Was your speedo still working as the car rolled ? Mine was
Robin
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31st Oct 06 at 00:30   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just wondered, because i had my linkage come undone before, with a clunk, then no drive.

sounds like a shaft has popped out though.
Poot
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31st Oct 06 at 00:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Didnt think to look to be honest...Was just thinking, I have a gearbox on my 97 p reg corsa, would this be a direct drop in? Is a 1.2 8v, but was just thinking would it have the electronic gearbox sender thingy for the speedo, or cable?
Poot
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31st Oct 06 at 00:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Robin
just wondered, because i had my linkage come undone before, with a clunk, then no drive.

sounds like a shaft has popped out though.

Would this enable all the oil to exit into a puddle on the floor?
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31st Oct 06 at 00:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Did yours piss oil everywhere then ?
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31st Oct 06 at 00:43   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah, the oil will come out the driveshaft flange hole thing.
Poot
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31st Oct 06 at 12:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Am in the process of getting the hub off now, removed the strut and brake calipers for a bit more movement, what sort of oil should be used in the gearbox, and how much?

Also where do you put it in?
Dave A
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31st Oct 06 at 12:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

removed the brake calliper? why?

all you need to remove is the 2 strut bolts and the 2 bottom arm/tie bar bolts and the bub will be free to move arount. then remove the driveshaft retaining split pin and nut and pull the shaft from the hub and the gearbox.

use gearbox oil (dextron2 I think) and fill it up through the breather on top of the box. use a piece of pipe attatched to a funnell. to check the level remove the drain plug from the passenger side of the gearbox as you look at it from the wheelarch its just to the right of where the shaft goes in. either a 13 or 15mm plug.
Poot
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31st Oct 06 at 12:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

removed the calipers just so I could move the hub around a bit more, was only 2 allen key bolts.

Got the shaft out, seems to be all there, although after the splined bit on the shaft (which goes into the gearbox) something appears to have sheared off?

I can push the shaft back in freely but theres nothing stopping it popping back out again that I can see?

Pics to follow, they'll explain it better Cheers Dave for the advice matey
Poot
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31st Oct 06 at 13:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Starting to strip


All I could see of the shaft in the gearbox


The oil leaking out


The broken end of the shaft


Another


And a view inside the gearbox of the diff internals?


Been on the phone to vauxhall and they say theres meant to be a spring loaded clip on the end of this shaft, so I take it thats whats broken off
Dave A
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31st Oct 06 at 14:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

looks like the end of the shaft has come off, along with the retaining clip

oh and get that caliper tied up so the weight isnt hanging on the flexi pipe otherwise you will need a new one of those as well!
Poot
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31st Oct 06 at 18:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

finished putting my car back together about half an hour ago
Tested it on axle stands, appears to be all good, one question though, how the fnarg did the end of the shaft break off??

On the other corsa a good sharp pull and out it came?


 
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