Rob_Lee
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I know sod all about bikes but whats the situation with riding bikes with just a car licence?
Rob
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Daimo B
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http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/vauxhall/off-topic-discussions/285565-bike-riding-not-push-bike-p.html#post2964959
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K3 VMU
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u cant unless its a road legal quad
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Rob_Lee
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Originally posted by VXR
http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/vauxhall/off-topic-discussions/285565-bike-riding-not-push-bike-p.html#post2964959
Sorry but that make fuck all sense to me!
Im 23 so if a do a direct access i can ride any bike?
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K3 VMU
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Do ur CBT and then u will be able to drive ay bike, because u have to have either had a bike liscence (sp) for two years - on a restricted bike-or be over 21. think thats correct 
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Rob_Lee
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So do CBT and i can ride any bike?
Im looking at a 250 for now till im used to bikes then a R6 or summit similar
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Dean_W
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If you do a normal bike test, you are restricted to 33BHP for 3 years. If you do a direct access, you can get on anything.
The downside to this is if you pass with a direct acces, the insurance would be high for a high powered bike.
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Rob_Lee
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Originally posted by Dean_W
If you do a normal bike test, you are restricted to 33BHP for 3 years. If you do a direct access, you can get on anything.
The downside to this is if you pass with a direct acces, the insurance would be high for a high powered bike.
i thought that was if your under 21?
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Mark Petty
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basically if you want to ride a bike you have 2 options:
Option 1. Do a CBT (compulsory bike training) which costs approx £100. Its a 1 day training session. Afterwards you are entitled to ride anything up to a 125cc but you MUST have L plates on. The CBT lasts for 2 years and you cannot carry a pillion.
Option2: Get your full license (DAS), this will entitle you to ride any sized bike. You will need to do your bike theory first. Then your CBT then your training then test. If you are a complete beginner you could do this withing 3-4 days. This can cost anything between £400 - £600
Once you pass you have a full license which last forever. I strongly recommend this option
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Rob_Lee
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Direct access does everything in a week.
So ill be able to ride anything with option 2.
Thanks Mark 
[Edited on 12-10-2006 by Rob_Lee]
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Mark Petty
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Lee
Direct access does everything in a week.
So ill be able to ride anything with option 2.
Yes you can ride any size bike from a 50cc to a 1300cc 
I did it the long way round I did my cbt rode around on a 125cc for 1 year then did my full test and now ride a 600cc
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Mark Petty
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If you book it make sure you say you want to do the DAS as otherwise you may end up on a restricted license. Which imo is pointless as you are over 21
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Daimo B
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If you are a complete beginner, you will not pass in 3-4 days. Well, you may do, but you won't be a safe rider at all.
Option 3: Get a Limited License. You also need your CBT (Do for all tests), another theory. Same as DAS but your limited to 33bhp for 2 years from passing.
IMO, its the best way for new riders, but many new riders will disagree.
I'd been riding 5 years already, but still done a 3 day course. Its not just about jumping ona bike and learning to ride from A-b without falling off. Theres an awful lot more to it. Only something experience can give you really (much MUCh steaper learning curve than a car).
It will also make you a better car driver as you become more aware of whats around you.
Double thumbs up, do it. Great thing to have. Which route you choose is up to you though.
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flash22
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you have to be 21 to take the direct access pass that and you can ride any bike
if you just take a normal bike test your restricted to 33 bhp for the first 2 year the unlimted after that
to ride ride on the road provisionally you need to take a cbt you the restricted to a 125 no more than 15 bhp and must display L plates
Dont for get you also need to take a bike theory test befor you can take you pratical test
all the info can be found here......
http://www.dsa.gov.uk/Bikes.asp
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by Mark Petty
If you book it make sure you say you want to do the DAS as otherwise you may end up on a restricted license. Which imo is pointless as you are over 21
Highly disagree.
Would you let a new car driver have the keys to an Porkie 911 Turbo for a first car?
Sure, they could drive it in a straight line, but what about everything else? WEt riding? Collision avoidence, braking, lines etc etc....
But then I was brought up to respect the thing im driving/riding as playing with your life as you do on a bike, needs proper learning.
7 years, still learning every single day....
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Mark Petty
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
quote:
Originally posted by Mark Petty
If you book it make sure you say you want to do the DAS as otherwise you may end up on a restricted license. Which imo is pointless as you are over 21
Highly disagree.
Would you let a new car driver have the keys to an Porkie 911 Turbo for a first car?
Sure, they could drive it in a straight line, but what about everything else? WEt riding? Collision avoidence, braking, lines etc etc....
But then I was brought up to respect the thing im driving/riding as playing with your life as you do on a bike, needs proper learning.
7 years, still learning every single day....
I'm afraid I disagree with you as well. You mention wet riding, collision avoidance etc. Do you think its different from a 33bhp bike to say a 90bhp bike?
The cost of the test is the same. Why not get do the DAS then buy a less powerful bike? that way you could ride that for a year then move up. That way you are not stuck to 33 bhp for 2 years
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Daimo B
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Thats fair enough, but....
Yup, bucause you cant do the outright speeds on a restricted bike that you can on an unlimited bike.
If your not doing 100mph coming up to a bend because you can't, then the chances of coming off are much less as your not going as quick, will ahve mroe time to react, don't need to scrub off as much speed etc etc...
I'd "personnally" do a restricted, get the bike I wanted, restrict it (for my own safty), then once those two years are up, its like owning a new bike again, without the costs.
But thats the way i was brought up to ride, and everyones brought up different.
Stats show about new riders owning 600cc+ sports bikes and the amount of accidents now happening. Wont be long before bikes are enforced upon as well......
Government only care about stats...
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Mark Petty
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
Thats fair enough, but....
Yup, bucause you cant do the outright speeds on a restricted bike that you can on an unlimited bike.
If your not doing 100mph coming up to a bend because you can't, then the chances of coming off are much less as your not going as quick, will ahve mroe time to react, don't need to scrub off as much speed etc etc...
I'd "personnally" do a restricted, get the bike I wanted, restrict it (for my own safty), then once those two years are up, its like owning a new bike again, without the costs.
But thats the way i was brought up to ride, and everyones brought up different.
Stats show about new riders owning 600cc+ sports bikes and the amount of accidents now happening. Wont be long before bikes are enforced upon as well......
Government only care about stats...
But even on a restricted license you can do 100mph? so surely the risks are still there.
Anyway I can see where your comming from, everyone has different views.
And my view is if you are over 21 you should be sensible enough to choose what you want and know your limits. If you don't you shouldn't be riding at all
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Rob_Lee
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Well im gonna do a DAS and prob get 250cc to learn on for a while then get bigger bike.
Sod waiting 2 years driving slow bikes!
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Rob_Lee
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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Petty
I'm afraid I disagree with you as well. You mention wet riding, collision avoidance etc. Do you think its different from a 33bhp bike to say a 90bhp bike?
The cost of the test is the same. Why not get do the DAS then buy a less powerful bike? that way you could ride that for a year then move up. That way you are not stuck to 33 bhp for 2 years
Exactly my thoughts
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Mark Petty
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Lee
Well im gonna do a DAS and prob get 250cc to learn on for a while then get bigger bike.
Sod waiting 2 years driving slow bikes!
Thats a good idea, 400cc are pretty good. Depends what style your after
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Rob_Lee
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Well i know my limits... im not about to go out and buy a 1000cc and kill my self!
250 will be fine for a while i think
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