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Robin
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15th Sep 06 at 18:00   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

also, as its an alloy block, try to figure out a way to check that that isnt warped slightly
Rob_Lee
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TBH i wanna concentrate on getting cylinder 4 sorted... the compression tests on the other 3 we're spot on.

Considering the valves are about 4-8 quid each i dont think james wants to spend that much on valves if it doesnt cure it.
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i think next step is change that other valve and then go from there.

New headgasket is gonna have to be used cos we have had the head off to many times now
Butler
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Im gonna look out for a new head. I think we should get the head off then take it to your place in aylesford. Have your guys give a proper look over for damage. Skim it there if you can other wise wel strip it down and il take it to peugeot.
Butler
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Fnarged
Robin
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no, i mean CHECK all the valves, not replace them all, just replace the ones which look dodgy...

I reckon its warped though.

B, get it skimmed before, it'll cost you 15 quid, much cheaper than a new head
Kano
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Lee
i think next step is change that other valve and then go from there.

New headgasket is gonna have to be used cos we have had the head off to many times now



Please tell me you didnt re-use the gasket.. Even if its only been torqued down 5 minutes you cant re-use...

Butler
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I have a couple of choices now....

1) Take the head off again, replace the inlet valve we missed that looked fine anyway, dismantle my head and have it skimmed and try again with a new gasket and bolts.

2) Buy a second hand head and have it skimmed, replace old head with new gasket and bolts.

3) Take it to a garage.

The first option would be cheapest but il risk skimming a damaged head that could be the source of the problem which would be a waste of money.

The second option is risky because the problem might not be in the head and thats money wasted aswell

The third option might source the problem but will cost me stupid amounts in labour.

Anyone any other suggestions pleeeassse?
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option 1, its only gonna be a waste of money if it doesnt solve the problem.

Butler
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Whatever happens head is coming off tomorrow and will be stripped.
Butler
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Happy Robin?

Skimmed to 21 thou or however you spell it. Do I NEED a thicker repair gasket? My bro says il get less compression and less chance of perfomance increase if I were to make up for whats been taken off with a thicker gasket.

[Edited on 21-09-2006 by Butler]
Rob_Lee
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head looks good...
Butler
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You can still see a bit of corrosion in the water ways but they said it will be fine like that and il have to go on that.
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use a standard gasket.

21 thou is nothing.

the head will take about 5 skims before its scrap, so 1 skim will be fine.
Butler
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Been considering a cam while im at it. Piper group a 300 degree cams are 250 quid but with such a lift id clearly need uprated valve springs and the full kit is 400 quid Cant justify spending that much.
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i'd get it running first

what did the skim set you back?
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41 quid cos I think they took the cam out for something and charged me fiver labour. Hope it works!
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all of this bloody hassle for 40quid....

worth it?

would have been the first thing i would do...
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Yeah ok mr. expert, we all learn from our mistakes. Il only be satisfied when its actually running.
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will increase the compression by skimming it

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