Steve
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Why are people more sympathetic to deaths that have been in more of a gruesome or horrific manner than deaths that have not been so horrific.
For instance if there were two threads one where someones grandad had died of a heart attack or old age, and another where somone had been decapitated by a train i guarantee the thread where someone died in a horrific manner would get more comments along the lines of "What an awful way to go", "thats awful" etc etc.
both died, same outcome and in a lot of cases the less horrifics deaths were probably more torturous, someone drowning would be far more torture than getting hit by a train for example, yet people show more feeling towards the graphic death?
people base there feelings far too much on what they see and not whats actually happened
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Edd
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beacause people die of heart attacks and stuff daily
we have basically became accustomed to it
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gianluigi
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the death via heart attack or old age is natural.
decapetation is not.
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Edd
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whereas gruesome deaths are not as common for most people so it still carries a shock factor
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ssj_kakarot
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probs media hype has a lot to do with it, if some one is hit by a train its on the front page of the tabloids if someone dies from a heart attack no one in the general public knows about it, ergo we have been conditioned to feel more sorrow ect for more media friendly deaths.
Also its not every day some one dies in a more horrific way, people are used to heart attacks ect so we dont feel as if we have to give as much attension to them.
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Steve
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yup i agree ssj, all media based, people base ther views on what they expect the media to react like
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i just look at it that "it does happen"
being sympathetic on a website doesn't change/help things, neither does making a joke about it.
fact it, if i knew them personnally or knew people close to them were reading i'd be more resevered 
no ones really deserves to die, but people who don't value their owns lifes etc i don't have much sympathy for
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
the death via heart attack or old age is natural.
decapetation is not.
does that make a drowning or death by old age or cancer, a better death than being mashed up then?
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Kerry
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people in the emergency services tend to find taking someone to hospital who is dying of heart attack or cancer more difficult than scraping someone up off a road or trainline
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Steve
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indeed my point
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Kerry
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the point is everyone is different
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ssj_kakarot
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yeah every one reacts and feels differently to things in different situations, that said we are pre-conditioned to feel worse about certain situations just because of the norms and values of society.
Although tbh if i here something like "5 lads were killed when there corsa smashed into a wall at 3 0 clock in the morning, after i night out" i tend to think, well serves em right; as they were probs drunk and driving like tits.
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People are far too sympathetic about human beings they have no emotional conection with.
You can empathise with what someone who has lost someone is going through, but at the end of the day death is natural and is happens every second of everyday and will happen to us all.
I do not feel bad for peoplei dont know dying  I didnt know them? Why should i be sad? Its a part of life!
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Steve
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Originally posted by Jambo
People are far too sympathetic about human beings they have no emotional conection with.
You can empathise with what someone who has lost someone is going through, but at the end of the day death is natural and is happens every second of everyday and will happen to us all.
I do not feel bad for peoplei dont know dying I didnt know them? Why should i be sad? Its a part of life!
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Ian
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If you're comparing burning to death in an overturned Lamborghini to passing away quietly in your sleep in hospital, consider that the guy in hospital knows he's going, he's had his life, and his family and friends have time to get around to the fact. Sad, but truly a fact of life.
Going out for a drive in a good car, with a smile on your face, having got up in the morning looking forward to the life ahead of you, then dying in the resultant accident is a little less easy to comprehend for me.
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Dying of a heart attack and dying from a cancer are two completely different things, you cant pigeon hole them together.
but i do agree bar that.
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Marc
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What annoys me is people who batter on about 9/11 saying innocent people were murdered. We even get reminded of it every day. Yet I recently mentioned the Manchester bombings to people who were waffling on about how horrible 9/11 was. I said what about Manchester and other incidents were innocent people have died and no one could remember it. People don't actually care unless its thrust upon them. People die every day for various reasons, the things that happen to people in the middle east is terrible, yet unless its on the news 24/7 peoples views are very ignorant.
Probably not relevant, I just think peoples opinions come from being told how bad the event was and not judging for themselves.
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Steve
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my point exactly marc, because its hyped in the media people view the deaths as being worse, when in reality no death is worse than another
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Robin
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well, death with suffering is worse than a quick death IMO, but that reinforces your first point, about being hit by a train, it would be quick (probably) and therefore there would not be as much suffering as burning to death.
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Ian
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I don't think its so much the speed of the death, so much as the circumstances around it. I would actually prefer to lose it on a bend and hit some stuff very hard than to be perfectly healthy in an upper floor of a which tower I had an idea might fall down.
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My cousin drowned in the sea at Blackpool 3 months ago. He got washed away with a wave, managed to fight his way back to the sea wall and pulled himself up, he almost got out but his mate who had been washed in with him, grabbed onto my cousins legs the weight was too much and my cousin lost his grip. Both of them got washed back out and drowned. We as a family torture oursleves daily with the thought that he knew he was going to drown and was fighting for his life  The way he died has made it much harder for us to deal with
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
What annoys me is people who batter on about 9/11 saying innocent people were murdered. We even get reminded of it every day. Yet I recently mentioned the Manchester bombings to people who were waffling on about how horrible 9/11 was. I said what about Manchester and other incidents were innocent people have died and no one could remember it. People don't actually care unless its thrust upon them. People die every day for various reasons, the things that happen to people in the middle east is terrible, yet unless its on the news 24/7 peoples views are very ignorant.
Probably not relevant, I just think peoples opinions come from being told how bad the event was and not judging for themselves.
Couldnt agree more.
People are ignorrent of what really happens in this world. If People werent dying in the middle east becuase of us, we wouldnt have things like 7/7 etc
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
Couldnt agree more.
People are ignorrent of what really happens in this world. If People werent dying in the middle east becuase of us, we wouldnt have things like 7/7 etc
Because of us How do you work that one out
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Robin
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because our army is out there shooting people because some of our troops were attacked for being there...
[Edited on 25-08-2006 by robmarriott]
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Jambo
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quote:
Originally posted by JadeM
quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
Couldnt agree more.
People are ignorrent of what really happens in this world. If People werent dying in the middle east becuase of us, we wouldnt have things like 7/7 etc
Because of us How do you work that one out
we kill muslims, muslims want to kill us! Why did you think they blew up bombs in london
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