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DTm is also poop in comparission to Aussie V8 supercars (which incidently is on CH5 later tonight at about 1am'ish I think )


Good call Jules Those fuckers take no prisoners and sound SO good too.
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GT racing is the Daddy though.

Hardly ever on however

And when it is, it's at 6 in the morning.
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Dom, Jules - http://www.sportssedan.com.au/about.php

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Dom, Jules - http://www.sportssedan.com.au/about.php




I would like to watch the fuckers on TV not read about them?!

TV listings, channels, times and dates - NOW!!!!!
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Motors TV
about the same time as the aussie v8s
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no offence rob but that looks toss, looks like the french crap they have on motors tv with some german english dude translating

however, motors tv is pretty good - was good for watching the le mans on, seeing some dude i used to go to school with racing on it
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i agree it looks crap from that site, but its like the ford saloon car championship, proper motor racing as it should be

some big crashes too, and the cars ar quick

who raced at lemans that went to school with you?
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i agree it looks crap from that site, but its like the ford saloon car championship, proper motor racing as it should be

some big crashes too, and the cars ar quick

who raced at lemans that went to school with you?


forgotten the dudes name, raced in a yellow corvette who won this year - 99% sure he was in the same year as me as the name rings bells...something gavin i think...went to the same school though
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i still can't believe they named a race track after a TSW wheel
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Point 1 - Are you ill with a temperature and delirious, or do you genuinely believe that?

Point 2 - Senna ran Prost off the track, end of story, it's a very simple fact.

Point 3 - He wasn't behind him, they were parallel going into the bend and Senna drove the pair of them off the course deliberately, to guarantee himself the championship win on points.

Point 4 - Of course racing isn't about staying behind people, that is a foolish statement at best. But the other thing racing MOST definitely isn't about is pushing other drivers off of the circuit deliberately.

Point 5 - Presumably you are another 20 year old that thinks he has perfect recollection of something he either saw as a child or never watched in the first place.



Point 1 - No I'm not ill, thanks for the concern though.

Point 2 - I think Prost turned into Senna instead of admitting Senna did him for pace to the chicane, Senna also stated in the after race interview that he couldn't have escaped to the grass verge as he would have suffered a pit pentalty (that's what FIA did back then).

Point 3 - Look at the video, quite clearly shows Prost did the steering wheel turning, Senna just kept on the track, Prost could've saved his own race and just admitted he'd been outclassed.

Point 4 - I never said racing isn't about staying behind, you incinuated people trying hard to pass other people is not proper racing.

Point 5 - No I don't think I am perfect, I have an opinion, and if you don't like it, then diddums, but atleast I have a reason for my opinion instead of resorting to childish tantrum antics, for which you are actually accusing me of doing, I can dig up the conveyor belt thread which made you look even more of a gimp than what your doing now, spouting off and ranting because people don't agree with you, and I think you'll find in that thread, I agreed with you at first, someone then made me see the light and I put my hand up and admitted I was wrong. So who's the most awkward person out of me and you then?

P.S. I watched it live in the early hours that day, here is the incident in question, make your own mind up folks, if you don't agree with me, then fair do's. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5991053297269748221

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dont understand how prost could have caused that, looks like senna blocked him off personally, otherwise prost would have turn into the chicane
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dont understand how prost could have caused that, looks like senna blocked him off personally, otherwise prost would have turn into the chicane


Well I'm not basing my choice of opinion on that incident alone, the pair had history and more often than not Senna would avoid a hit if he could by letting Prost through and just letting his driving in the latter part of the race do the revenge thing. Prost didn't adhere to the unwritten rule everyone stuck to.
Anyway, forget that. Done as far as I'm concerned.
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dont understand how prost could have caused that, looks like senna blocked him off personally, otherwise prost would have turn into the chicane


Prost did turn into the chicane.
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Point 1 - No I'm not ill, thanks for the concern though.

Point 2 - I think Prost turned into Senna instead of admitting Senna did him for pace to the chicane, Senna also stated in the after race interview that he couldn't have escaped to the grass verge as he would have suffered a pit pentalty (that's what FIA did back then).

Point 3 - Look at the video, quite clearly shows Prost did the steering wheel turning, Senna just kept on the track, Prost could've saved his own race and just admitted he'd been outclassed.

Point 4 - I never said racing isn't about staying behind, you incinuated people trying hard to pass other people is not proper racing.

Point 5 - No I don't think I am perfect, I have an opinion, and if you don't like it, then diddums, but atleast I have a reason for my opinion instead of resorting to childish tantrum antics, for which you are actually accusing me of doing, I can dig up the conveyor belt thread which made you look even more of a gimp than what your doing now, spouting off and ranting because people don't agree with you, and I think you'll find in that thread, I agreed with you at first, someone then made me see the light and I put my hand up and admitted I was wrong. So who's the most awkward person out of me and you then?

P.S. I watched it live in the early hours that day, here is the incident in question, make your own mind up folks, if you don't agree with me, then fair do's. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5991053297269748221




So did I JS.

Senna drove Prost off the track, he didn't even fake an attempt at performing an impossible manouvre. He merely cut Prost up and forced both cars into the gravel.

It was so blatant it was sick making.

It's fairly simple.

I don't need to watch edited highlights, I have the entire race on video, and clearly remember the uproar the incident caused at the time.

I am rather surprised that you are turning a throw away comment into the war of the roses.

You originaly said that Prost would never have rolled over and let Senna win.

I merely commented that he wouldn't have needed to, as Senna would drive anyone off the course if he deemed it necessary.

I can only assume that you took this comment out of context as some kind of personal affront to you, presumably because maybe you are a huge Senna fan and loathe or dislike Prost.

As far as ''insinuating that people trying hard to pass people isn't proper racing'' is concerned, that is untrue.

What I said, (and I hasten to add, quite clearly) was that driving your team mate or any other driver off of the circuit deliberately is not proper racing. Anyone that disagrees with that must surely be a blood relative of Senna or Schumacher.
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Incidentally, I too have an opinion.

My comments however are based on observation and fact.

You seem to have taken a dislike to both my opinion and my observations, not the other way round.

Why, I have no idea.
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So where is this Prost/senna link?

Im pleasantly surprised F1 still arouses such debates, albeit the discussions are as usual about the 'good old days'

My opinion?

Cap the budgets (difficult to enforce, I appreciate)

Single tyre supplier (easy, but difficult to manage)

Throw out the rule book (very easy)

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So where is this Prost/senna link?

Im pleasantly surprised F1 still arouses such debates, albeit the discussions are as usual about the 'good old days'

My opinion?

Cap the budgets (difficult to enforce, I appreciate)

Single tyre supplier (easy, but difficult to manage)

Throw out the rule book (very easy)




single supplier is happening next season, which i think is a bad move, but i cant see them ever capping budgets as like you say its difficult to enoforce the limit!
Couldnt agree more about the regulations though, some of the stuff is complete codshite, though the FIA is looking at getting rid of some of the technology behind it all which might be a pretty good move if it happens
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Good last point Jules.

Having a 1st formula, and then reigning the cars in seems to negate the whole point of their existence.

They look like a lesser formula with their silly narrow track.

I believe that F1 cars should be returned to their roots and that the original width of the modern era be restored, along with engine capacities of 3.5 litres. I think they should also utilise 12 cylinders and forced induction aswell.

All beneficial technology such as traction control and ground effect should also be encouraged in my opinion.

The excitement of cars qualifying with 4 figure horsepower and immense cornering speeds was second to none, and it would be sensational to witness stuff like that again.
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agreed. bring back the williams 1.5 turbo engine
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Will post again on this subject morrow.

I can barely keep my eyes open ATM
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V8 Supercars - 5 MINUTE WARNING - CH5!!!
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w00t

watch that in bed
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SVM I didn't take anything personally, never do on the net, I just was just responding to what you said to me, healthy debate, I have the old f1 races on video just like you, I don't think that clip was edited though, more convenience and easy to post. Got all the tapes of the 80's early 90's races, when the likes of Mansell, Rosberg, Nelson Piquet, Jean Alesi, Tombay etc..... that era for me was better because I think it was more competitive.

I admire Prost, Senna and him were my fave drivers at that time, I took a like to anyone in a McLaren because I like Ron Dennis and his team.

But aside from that, I think one thing me and you will agree on SVM is that, that era of F1 was better than the one today.

[Edited on 02-08-2006 by Jizinho Silva 10]
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Well, well, well......thats put the cat amongst the (driver seat) pigeons

>click<

And he's managed by Flav now.....wonder where he is off to?

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